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[–] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

While I liked the article, I can't help but feel it was basically, "find your dream job" as the overarching message. It did give some pointers of where it could be, but finding those are going to be harder than just landing any job in the current landscape, which is already difficult.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Overall I liked a couple things I hadn't thought of (NGOs), but the end of the article... that just sounded like any other consultancy service to me. Perhaps that's too harsh but it doesn't feel like a new career field (just my opinion).

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I did not read the full article, but the first advice is what I did, and I don't regret it. I've been working in a public institution's dev department for 3 years, after a dozen working as a contractor for big companies. It pays a fraction of what I could get elsewhere, but I got benefits I value way more than that.

    A lot less stress, concrete work on services that have immediate and beneficial impact on people, colleagues that don't consider everyone else is competition, and somewhat flexible hours with generous annual leave.

    I am not sure that kind of job is available everywhere, so I got "lucky" I found this, I guess. But it's not like I had to fight for it either. Our team had vacant positions for years because nobody was replying to the job offers. And I just had my contract renewed. I was the only candidate.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    Most people don't know they are allowed to dream, let alone in which direction. While this might not connect with you, there are millions of tech workers who have zero perspective on what's out there.

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  • “find your dream job”

    Which is what I did: working in tech. Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to build things, but I also wanted to support a family. At first I wanted to be a carpenter, but the likelihood of making good money with that was small, so I learned to build websites and decided to make a career out of it (I actually thought about patent law, but realized SW patents don't build, but prevent things from being built).

    So yeah, I'm basically doing exactly what I want, and I've avoided working for companies I hate.

    That said, I've been doing the same thing for many years now, so a change of pace would be welcome, but I still want to build things. Unfortunately, LLMs are trying to take the part of like (actually building things) and is trying to replace it with designing things. I guess I could pivot to that, but seeing something built doesn't have the same satisfaction for me.

    If I had enough to retire, I'd probably start an indie game studio, and I'd hire a lead designer and work on the fun algorithms myself. So my main complaint is what I work on, so I could probably be happier with a different company, but there's no perfect company and I like my current team, so I'm not particularly interested in leaving.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Ya fucked. We all are.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The meme in the article cracked me up fwiw

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    [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What do you do if you want to leave tech?

    You don't. Every aspect of modern society needs some amount of tech. But the tech we need doesn't automatically need to be the adware-laden, spyware-as-a-service enshittified garbage that BigTech foists on us in the name of ever-increasing quarterly profits.

    We all have a choice. If you can make tech, you can choose to make tech for humans, not corporations. There are numerous apps that we would all love a simple, cleanly implemented version maintained by a small team of individuals dedicated to creating a useful application that solves real-world problems without ripping anybody off or filling our viewscreens with pointless ads.

    There's a simple equation anybody can follow. Make something useful that someone else finds value in, sell it for a reasonable price. That's it. That's all any of us need to do in tech. Grab the off-the-shelf hardware, the open-source software, make something useful, and sell it for a modest profit that the makers can live a modest life on.

    We all can choose to be less greedy any time we want. We can choose to work for less greedy people. We can choose to maximize for human impact, or for quality, or for longevity. We do not need to keep choosing maximum profit at the expense of our own ecological well-being.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    They're talking about leaving big tech. FAANG types.

    "I will try to make as few assumptions as possible:

    I assume you’re a technical worker
    
    I assume you want to keep using your skills "
    

    So you can still be a technologist, just not in a tech company.

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This isn’t leaving tech… it’s leaving corporate employment.

    Still great options, but I was expecting something more like: pivot to a different role in your existing company and then find another non-corporate use for those skills, or get your apprenticeship in the trades, or become a bus driver.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    I would argue the title implies "leaving the tech industry", and in the beginning it says the article is for who wants to still work with the same skillset, but outside of the tech industry as in the companies who produce technology for profit. Probably only the tech co-op part can be said to be still within the tech industry

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Stay in it anyway because you want a 75% pay cut even less. Only put in 40 hours. Enjoy the rest of your life outside of work.

    That's my solution, anyway. Though, I actually love tech itself, it's the people and processes I hate, so changing industries isn't actually a solution.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The idea of co-op sounds interesting.

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    I left early, only 4.5 years in tech. I still make less than my first job but boy am I happier. I work in a nature preserve now.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I left my big corporate tech job last year, working for a small company now and I'm 100x happier with life.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I left work as a CTO, after 7 years, to become a coder again. Pay plummeted, but I'm happier and I feel like I actually contribute with something valuable. Mostly, I love learning new tech things, which I was too distanced from as a manager. If I were to leave the high paced tech life, my choice would not be to become a technical socialist/idealist, which is my take on the article; I would probably try something else, like gardener or electrician.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I fundamentally love tech, particularly scientific computing. However, most products in that space are basically languishing since the 90s. Incremental improvements are well and good, but 3-4 decades without any meaningful paradigm shifts seems like laziness.

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