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[–] 144 points 1 year ago (12 children)

"If you want to destroy bigotry, you have to kill the bigots." How does that sound, Alan?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    They're literally no better than Hamas at this point. Hamas's who deal is, "fuck it. We'll kill the innocent with the guilty, let Allah sort it out."

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Please give me: statistics on the bystanders killed by hamas vs. statistics on the bystanders killed by the Israeli occupation forces

    EDIT: Misread comment, but hamas still clearly values human life more than Israel

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's actually a lot worse. The IDF has a much, much higher rate of civilians killed for every noncombatant than Hamas does. Hamas is objectively better at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF is.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Would be interesting to see the statistics, if someone has calculated them. I wonder if reservists count as combatants or noncombatants. Would skew the numbers a lot

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well, the vast vast majority of Hamas fighters are what a regular military would classify as "reservists." Hamas are mostly part-time fighters who otherwise have regular civilian jobs and live regular civilian lives. (Or at least they did before the Gaza strip was blown to rubble.)

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    So what exactly is the difference between this and terrorism? (Nothing)

    Wikipedia: Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    In particular, fear, or "terror". You can use violence without anyone knowing, and you can create fear without violence. The fear is the key factor.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lol. IDF headquarters is in downtown Tel Aviv. Every accusation is projection. We really need to stop listening to this sex pest.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Killing civilians is the best way to ensure that Hamas will have a steady supply of volunteers

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Isn't the attempt at that exactly how you get more hamas?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    He'd probably respond, "Not if you kill them all." Which of course has its own defined word that he'd deny.

    Next step is when they publicly say that they're doing genocide, but only on "those" people. (let me guess, someone already did that maybe)

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is that your final solution, Al?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Palestine has the right to defend itself.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    I think at some point you have to ask yourself "if killing 10s of thousands of innocent people is necessary to achieve my goal... does that make me the 'baddie'?"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Trump and the Israelis wont stop the war. Why would they? Trumps "peace" is a farce and a delaying tactic.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    He has to defend Israel because he was on Blackmail Island and now they have controversial video material of him.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    He's correct, but that doesn't justify it. Just the opposite.

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  • [+] -38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That's the only viable strategy - if there was some number of Palestinian civilians that Hamas could operate among with impunity, it would do. I don't think Israel is currently fulfilling its obligation to protect civilians as much as is practically possible while still fighting a war effectively, but civilian casualties would be high even if it was simply due to the nature of urban warfare against an enemy operating among civilians who have nowhere to evacuate.

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  • [+] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [+] -24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I agree that the notion that Hamas can be defeated by denying it food, and furthermore that doing so justifies starving the civilian population, is indeed something I consider well outside the boundary of civilized warfare. The fact that Israel is doing that makes it hard to believe that it is seriously attempting to minimize civilian casualties in other ways. With that said, my point is that Dershowitz is still in principle correct.

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    [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That's weird. That's also how you radicalize people against you, which Hamas will then use to recruit more soldiers.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I presume Israel heard the term "hearts and minds" and then decided that was the target

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's okay everyone, calm down. God said it's cool. "Thou shalt not kill unless I gave you some land." Remember?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    They don't think that commandment applies since it's "Thou shall not commit murder". They consider the killing of palestinians as justified killing like you would have in war or capital punishment. Murder is considered to be unjustified killing.

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