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MOS Is a New Open-Source Server OS Aimed at Homelabs and Self-Hosting (linuxiac.com)
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[–] 6 points 9 months ago

So TLDR is that this is Proxmox for the systemd hate club?

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    [+] 11 points 9 months ago (10 children)
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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux,” and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.

    Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

    Sorry, it had to be done. (But is actually misquoted)

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It had to be done.

    I personally like the one where they hear about linux without gnu and just die. Very enjoyable. I expect a good continuation on gnu hurd & gnu without linux eventually.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I cannot wait until GNU HURD is ready and the GNU/Linux crowd migrates to it.

    The rest of us can then replace Glibc with musl, GNU utils with UUtils, GCC with Clang and we will not have to listen to this GNU/Linux crap anymore.

    I mean, all the GNU stuff is great and I use them all the time. But it is ridiculous in 2026 that people want to brand the entire OS with the makers of 3% of the packages (all of which have world-class alternatives). Especially since almost all of those packages are majority authored by Red Hat.

    GNU is great and massively important historically. But the end of the GNU/Linux nonsense cannot come fast enough.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    It's not misquoted, since the wall of text is the copypasta itself which is a parody of the kind of person who would call it GNU/Linux during conversations instead of official documentation.

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    • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    To each their own, but I really don't see the point of these distros. I usually just install Debian or AlmaLinux on my homeservers and build on top of it. I guess extra tooling can be helpful, but I've never felt the need for it.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I've somewhat recently taken TrueNAS to avoid the headache of DKMS for ZFS support.

    While it is nice to know I basically don't have to worry about that, the rest of it is pretty painful -- I can't even install a package without manually running it in docker.

    We've in a CentOS/Rocky shop at work until recently, moving to Debian.

    If I has to redo my NAS, is take Debian or something and call it a day. The hassle of TrueNAS and similar distros do not really seem worth it, if you want more control.

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    • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I recommend YunoHost for anyone who wants this sort of thing. Very simple to use.

    This might be a good alternative if I get tired of YunoHost some day though!

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    [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's looks like it's trying to be the Mint of self hosting?

    It's based on Devuan which is based on Debian. Like Mint is based on Ubuntu, which is based on Debian.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Why not just cut out the middleman? :P

    Do not cut out the middleman until you are ready to start digging down into the root cause and learning the correct diagnostic tools.

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    • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I've been a fan of MASH, an ansible playbook that can host a lot of stuff.

    I only have experience with their separate Matrix playbook, but it is super robust and I haven't ran into any problems the playbook couldn't deal with (aside from running out of VM disk space once), so I'd expect this would be similarly good.

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    [–] 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    based on Devuan

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (4 children)

    why on earth?

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    • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Third time's a charm for Vyatta/eBox?

    I don't see any paid support subscriptions yet, so maybe it'll work this time.

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    [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Am I missing something or did you just link some gnome extension?

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    • [+] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)
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