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[–] 220 points 1 year ago (25 children)

no Google

I do not believe you.

Arch Linux

Okay, fine. A rare sighting.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    They did it before the Internet was even a thing, my friend.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I was there. I was one of them. I just chose to use tools to make my life easier. Call me a sell out, I guess.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Nope, not a sell out. Just a person using the tools at hand. You can't just live in the past. You did it without Google back then because there was no Google and you had to use what you had to use. Now you use Google, because again, you have to use what you have to use. In the end, I personally only care about the outcome.

    I just chose to use tools to make my life easier

    If you don't then I'd call you stupid. Keep doing that, friend. That's the best way actually. You want your life easier so you can put out great work.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Google went live in 98? First Arch in 02?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm talking about developers in general before even Linux was a thing. I thought that was obvious in my comment. Guess not, I need to work more on my English.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I understood your point fine. I indeed started out with first Commodore BASIC and then into 6502, all using the manuals because there wasn't much else of a source back then.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Thank you, kindly. I've heard that manuals where fun to use (sarcasm). Unfortunately, I am old enough to remember those days, but wasn't fortunate enough to own or even be able to witness such gems in real life.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It was fun to learn how things work, and when things worked as planned (finally). It's when they didn't work that got annoying and frustrating, and with assembly language with basically no error codes or any help, it was just...nope, that wasn't right. Maybe followed by cycling the computer off and on because it locked up. Still have my old Mapping the Commodore 64 book on the shelf. Huge resource.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It is extremely easy to use the internet without using google.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, otherwise it would have been very hard before they came into being.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    But he went out of his way to install man pages on arch? Probably a narc.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Aren't they there by default?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If you're using arch, you shouldn't need man pages. Because you use arch, BTW.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Is psychopatl an Aztec insult I don't know about?

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  • [–] 92 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Yay! Cencorship! I spent an extra 3 seconds focusing on the word psychopath trying to figure out what went wrong instead of reading it like a normal word. Isn’t that so much better than offending an algorithm with the letter ‘h’?

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    Wasn't that one of the Incan gods?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Could also just be a non native English speaker.

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I use:

    • DuckDuckGo
    • Neovim
    • rusty dusty IdeaPad
    • Arch NixOS btw

    I don't read man pages but I read documentation.

    Am I also a psychopath?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh god no, ideapads. My dad has one and the metal parts hardly fit together after a year, the key travel is 1mm and the touchpad is practically useless.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I like the key travel though. The touchpad does get fucked quite easily after some usage so I decided to just use keyboard-only. I've been using mine for 4 years now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    If I had to use it daily, I would kill myself, but if you're fine with it, enjoy it. Of course it can't beat thinkpads and my Dell latitude 5290 (the new latitudes are pretty much the same (edit:as the ideapad) and part whitelist on tp-s).

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I decided to try Cursor today (first time using any coding assistant) to refactor my sloppy NixOS config, and I'm really impressed to far. My config is so much cleaner and very well documented. It even has automated backups, a README.md, and CHANGELOG.md now!

    The cost has been ~$20 so far (I'm still tinkering with it).

    ETA: I also use Arch NixOS btw


    Edit 2: I asked it "how might I streamline my deployments a little?" It wrote some nicely polished scripts that use deploy-rs, and wrote some nice documentation for it.

    The script didn't work on first run, so I added the console output to the context and asked "what went wrong here?" It debugged and fixed the script, and updated the docs.

    I think this has been the most frictionless NixOS experience I've had so far

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I would not say that. I use a very old 13" Dell XPS laptop. I use Code-Server and duckduckgo. I have be known to program on my 7 year old android tablet with a bluetooth keyboard. For the most part I look at docs for JS modules as I write mostly in Python with Flask and use JS for responsiveness. Before anyone suggests something else I have to interface with a VERY old database that I wrote a webservice into through C#. I do realize there are other ways but python is my comfort point and the amount of backend processing makes it easier to use a "real" language. For my purposes it is plenty fast.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Raw dogging development

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I still remember my Masters degree in distributed computing. C++ in vi (not even vim), monochromatic display, 36 computers working together to give me a bunch of SIGSEGV.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The joys of distributed algorithms. You can now get more errors, more quickly than before!

    I remember writing a chat system in assembler, for DOS, using, IIRC, IPX networking. When it went wrong, one or more machines would just freeze, with the string "NETWORK ABEND" in the middle of the screen.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I was going to ask how he knew it was Arch, but I feel like that is just setting up the next comment.

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    I can still do this provided that the language is Perl. But the few cases when I actually have to do so are rare, and never in public.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Well yeah, Perl is write-only. Larry Wall asked the monkey's paw for a language that works on the first try. What's onscreen are your raw brain patterns.

    Thank god it runs like crap. Optimized C isn't pretty, but any project that compiles proves someone looked at it more than once.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    That's impossible. He would be too busy telling everyone that he uses Arch to get any work done.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I had an internship 15 years ago where I was forced to write C++ with no internet access. I had to use a programming manual and man pages.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    25 years ago I was writing code in a paper notebook, sometimes while riding the bus. The only computer access was at college and it was easier to work through the code on paper and then quickly transcribe it once I got on campus.

    Yeah, things are a bit more complicated now, but in other ways they are sooooo much easier. The fact that people are using chatGPT to 'program' is just crazy from my perspective.

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    I can’t live without vim.

    Sometimes I wander into vscode but it’s less productive for me.

    Plus vscode has weird name inconsistencies (the app is called visual studio code, it’s branded as vscode, and the menu bar says Code), which is probably normal for Microsoft but unusual elsewhere.

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    Yesterday I spent about 2 hours trying to get ChatGPT to walk me through the install process of putting Arch on a 2011 MacBook Air. It just wouldn’t work and the further along we got the harder it seemed and I really thought that using AI was necessary. I finally gave up and read the Arch Wiki and had it installed in under 45 minutes.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I tried reading the gadget bridge instructions for my watch. Could not get a straight answer on getting the authorization key (I'm a noob), wasted 2 hr. o3 gave me perfect instructions that got it done in 20 minutes. Ya win some ya lose some.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. It is really good at some things and bad at other things. I used to have a good sense for it but the arch install threw me off.

    I find it’s good at giving regex commands from natural language and vise versa. It’s really helped me get a grip on that aspect of learning (neo)vim.

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