I’ll be straight with it. I’m a smoker, I smoke inside, I have a PC that is also inside. I want to clean my PC thoroughly to buy it a few more years. I know about the q tip method, and the compressed air, and general methods of cleaning out gunk and junk from PC parts. But this boy is way too gunked up for a regular cleaning. So, I reckon, the easiest way to clean it is to dunk the dirtiest parts in a bath of isopropyl alcohol. I was considering acetone at first, but it’s way too strong of a solvent, and alcohol should be better at dissolving organic residues. Is this a good idea?

I hereby submit this query to the council, and await judgement.

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[–] 88 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

Extreme case story here..

I had a fella bring his computer into our shop for diagnostics and hopefully repair after a house fire. The case was originally light grey, but it was covered outside and even inside with nasty stinking black soot and the front panel was mostly melted.

We checked it out though, the PSU had failed. So we pulled out our test PSU and tried that, and the nasty stinking computer actually booted up!

Well, the boss didn't want to be responsible for this mess, so he told me I could take it as a side job if the customer really wanted it fixed. He already knew that I've successfully salvaged flood damage computers, so why not?

Anyways, I took the motherboard and expansion cards out and took them to our local car wash. I soaked the boards with tire/engine cleaner, then pressure washed the crud away with plain water. Then I used an air compressor to dry it as best as I could, and then left it on the roof of my car in the hot sun for like 4 hours.

Everything worked fine after all that, so I hooked him up with a spare computer case I had laying around to replace his nasty half melted case.

You can actually pressure wash the circuit boards as long as there's no power (do NOT pressure wash the PSU at all!), as long as the boards are completely dry and clean before reassembling and powering it back up. Just, be careful around any sensitive parts, and do not pressure wash the CPU socket, unless you like all your precious pins bent. Also, don't pressure wash the fans or mechanical drives or such.

This technique isn't for the faint of heart though, and I usually only reserve such drastic measures for boards that have already failed due to spill damage, corrosion, or other extremes where the board would otherwise end up in the scrap pile.

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  • [–] 58 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This is wild because my coworker was just telling me about his parents' desktop that was in a house fire plus all of the water from fighting the house fire. After a week of drying off it booted up without issue.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    Water only causes and issue if there's a charge and or minerals in the water making it more conductive. Plain water is actually quite a good insulator.

    I washed a drone flight controller in deionized water after a lithium battery exploded on it and it got it back up and going

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago

    Isopropyl alcohol and a toothbrush. Turn off power to the PC. Hold power button for a minute. Unplug and disassemble. Get one of those chemistry squirt bottles (google lab wash bottle) to put the alcohol in, squirt it on the place to clean, brush with the toothbrush. Repeat until at desired cleanliness. Then take canned air and spray out under all the parts. Allow to dry. It's dry when you can spray under the big components and not get any alcohol out.

    I used to assemble, test, repair, and clean PCBs of all shapes and sizes. That's what we did when we had to spot clean a board after a repair.

    The jankiest way I've cleaned a PCB was to run it through the dishwasher without detergent, then wash it down with RODI water to demineralize, then alcohol to displace the water. It works, but you gotta be damn sure that you've washed away any mineral deposits and given it plenty of time to dry.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Isopropyl alcohol damages certain plastics.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    I wouldn't submerge them, but taking q-tips to it should be fine as long as you're careful and make sure it is fully dry before plugging everything back in.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Why not submerge them and let the dirt dissolve? What is the danger in doing that?

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Its not just the dirt that the alcohol will eat away. It'll eat your thermal paste and any adhesives used in manufacturing. Pretty sure it will eat at basically any material if left submerged.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm mostly cleaning heat sinks, surfaces, and circuit boards. I can't reach into some spots even with a q tip, so I'm looking for alternative solutions. I'm pretty sure 10 to 15 minutes submerged in 96% alcohol wouldn't dissolve my PC like styrofoam in acetone. Although I could be wrong, I'm not an expert.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You could dissolve things off the board or mess up the microchips if there are any gaps that could be filled with liquid.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Liquid alone doesn't kill electronics. You can actually have a computer completely submerged in mineral oil for cooling purposes. To see more, look up fish tank computers. There is an issue with cables acting as wicks for the oil and causing a mess, though.

    It's the dissolved minerals in water that causes electricity to go where it's not intended that actually damages the components (pure water is an insulator)

    You could wash your motherboard in a sink with soapy water as long as you pull the cmos battery first and fully dry it before powering it back on.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Wow at this point id more seriously consider to quit smoking or at least stop doing it inside.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You know nothing about my situation. I can't do that. If I could I would.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Wrong.

    You can. You just wont.

    You are speaking with an addictive mind that is left out of control.

    That is how addictions work. That’s your ‘situation’. And yea, i do know. I know enough to know when im being bullshitted. I know the bullshit language we use to convince ourselves.

    You are only bullshitting yourself here. Thats the situation. Im not the one who needs to be convinced for you to continue. Because im not the one making you smoke.

    Youre already taken that job on yourself. Every moment of every day. Youre chosing it.

    That is your situation.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago*

    Thank you for explaining how my life works and what my situation is. Clearly you are much wiser than I could ever be. You are right. I will not only stop smoking, but also stop all the other smokers in my household not to smoke inside. Have you ever thought of writing a book? You'd sell at least 8 billion copies guaranteed.

    Just have it proofread before publishing.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    When I worked at an eltronics recycling center (we repaired and resold PCs and printers) we used isopropyl alcohol in spray bottles to clean pc parts. It worked really well. Don't dunk anything! Just carefully disassemble, spray the part (let the run off fall onto a collection pad), and let it completely dry before reassembly. It may take a few rounds depending on how dirty the part is, resist any temptation to scrub off build up on electrical components. If contaminates absolutely will not come off use a circuit board cleaning "paint brush" with circuit board pcb cleaner to gently clear it or better yet, leave it be. The enemy of good is perfect.

    WARNINGS: Wear gloves, eye protection, and a mask. Follow all ESD safety protocols to protect computer parts. If you disassemble the cpu add more thermal paste. DON'T SPRAY THE PSU, if necessary use alcohol on a wash cloth for the PSU exterior. You can speed up dry time by air blowing excess liquid off but be aware this may splatter dirty droplets around the space. Only clean your PC like this in a well ventilated space. Only attempt this if you are comfortable disassembling and reassembling your pc. However long YOU think your computer needs to be fully dry, double that time to be safe.

    Also as a bonus. You can put non electric components in the dishwasher. No soap, no heat, as long as they fit and won't get dinged up by moving dishwasher parts. SERIOUSLY DO NOT HEAT DRY OR WASH ON HIGH HEAT.

    I also throw my mechanical keyboards in there but there's always a chance they won't work after - so far tho it's been a success (obviously I make sure they are fully dry before I use them . If you attempt this - at your own risk.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I have an old mainboard from 1990 with emotional value and a leaked BIOS battery. And advice for cleaning that?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Wear gloves and eye protection. Remove that battery and dispose of it in accordance with your local laws.

    Gently scrub off and any residual acid with white vinegar and a toothbrush. Brush away or blow off loosened residue until it's gone, just be aware it's acid and where you are are sending the particles.

    Let it dry. If the rest of the board needs further cleaning you can use isopropyl alcohol to finish it off.

    After it's clean make sure to check for damage before you replace the battery. It's likely fine, but if it's been sitting in acid for a while it never hurts to give the board a look over for shorts, cracks, or solder points that lost contact. If it looks good replace the battery and see if she works.

    If you decide to disassemble your board to make cleaning easier, I suggest taking a few pictures first. The old MBs don't have helper notches to ensure parts are placed in the proper orientation and documentation may be hard to come by.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Thanks! The whole PC had a time (when its age was ~20 years) where it still booted, but with reset BIOS settings, followed by a time where it doesn't boot up anymore. So I believe the most likely thing is that it leaked and caused damage. Retro computing community thinks that the most likely cause is battery damage.

    Here is the exact model from someone else: https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/msi-3121-v3

    Battery (top-left) already removed, but it shows that this one has leaked before as well. When you look closely, you see battery residue on the nearby 8-bit ISA (?), so it must have leaked a lot at some point and been cleaned up. Unfortunately, it came with a notorious Ni-Cd Battery; even for its time not the best.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    But in all reality, spraying the PSU with high concentration IPA is fine so long as you remove it from the power source and mobo, and discharge the caps.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    That's true. I usually don't suggest it because when I worked on desktops I developed a philosophy with PSUs of leave them alone if they work and replace them if they don't. In my experience PSUs are extremely tough, and even in the worst conditions rarely failed. It caused more harm then good to mess with them unnecessary.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Absolutely no way.

    It is dangerous to have a flammable, volatile chemical pooled up like that. It's a fire hazard, not to mention the fumes from it.

    Just don't

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I take it you've probably never used isopropyl and definitely have never played with isopropyl fire. Few flammable things are safer than isopropyl. You should avoid paper with that mindset because at least the alcohol evaporates at a far, far lower temperature than that that causes autoignition. Even when I've lit pools of it on fire, it's easy to blow it out. It's a short-lived flame because, again, it evaporates as fast as it burns. It doesn't get used as fuel for any normal heat source.

    You realize IPA is used in all kinds of cleaners for both household and medical needs, right?

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    I am the danger. I worked with more volatile stuff. I've done things that would give an OSHA inspector a stroke, and I'm fine, because I'm not THAT stupid. But thank you for the concern.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Not to jump on the smoking hate train - I get it, smoking is very pleasurable and insanely addictive - but have you thought about just smoking outside?

    I would never smoke in a room I spend any time in. It's a funny mindset, as I used to smoke inside in my 20s, but when the ban in bars came along it just sort of became second nature.

    These days I rarely smoke, but vape more than I should. The vaping is starting to give me a dry tongue that feels like a fading pizza burn. I plan to stop... Soon....

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I haven't been insulted like this in literal years. I did think of it. In fact, I would do it if it was possible.

    You know what, I'll just rant at you, because I can.

    I live with two other smokers in an apratment that is around 28 square meters. I can't convince them to smoke outside (I tried for years, actually decades). Me smoking outside would change nothing.

    Just so you know, the two mentioned smokers are very upset to be mentioned here.

    Smoke whatever you want wherever you want. Just don't assume everyone's situation is the same. I never asked for health advice, just tech advice. It is painful to read comments from all these self righeous pricks telling me how to live my life (no offense, your comment just happened to be the straw that broke the camel's back). If I want to die from lung cancer, that is my choice. If I want to smoke inside an apartment that is already considered a "hotbox" by most standards (even without me smoking inside), then you can bet your pretty face I will.

    Thank you for your imput. Hope it goes well with quiting vaping. Cheers.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Fair play, man. Like I say, I used to smoke indoors and it's weird that, once society in my country changed, it started to feel really strange to smoke inside.

    I wouldn't be feeling insulted. Your life, your choice bud.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    The insulting part was "but have you thought about..." Yes. In fact I did. I did entertain the possibility.

    I'm not saying you were trying to insult me with that, but I did feel insulted. That may be a problem on my part though.

    Wish you well.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Wasn't meant to be insulting. It never occurred to me until the smoking ban in my country. As this is a global platform, I didn't know if smoking was legal or not in yours. Smoking inside was normal for me growing up, but I'm nearly in my 50s.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I promise you, your mindset is going to change. Near the time I quit I was getting constant sinus infections. Wake up every morning coughing my lungs out. I knew if I continued not only would I most likely be gone in ten years but it wasn't going to be a fun way to go suffocating. I'd miss watching my daughter grow up and walking her down the aisle. I could literally feel smoking starting to affect my health after 20 years. Vaping got me off and I feel great now.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    You can even use water on most pc components and it will clean most residue- it's called the universal solvent for a reason. The reason isopropyl alcohol is popular is that it is still a decent solvent but also will evaporate quickly, which makes it safer.

    People have put PC stuff into a dishwasher (without detergent, on cold) but that feels kind of crazy to me still.

    I'd be more concerned about soaking components in alcohol. Lubricants, adhesives, etc would all be at risk of being worn away. Definitely don't do it to fans or anything else that moves. Pure hunks of metal (like a heatsink) or silicon are safer.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    I think alcohol may dissolve somethings that aren't supposed to be dissolved, I wouldn't risk it. If it's working don't fix it. But if you have to I would use contact spray instead, it's made to be nonconductive and noncorrosive.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I see lots of “brush it, it’s fine” posts, but if you want to dunk your components, that’s a whole different story. Alcohol is certainly going to dissolve something like TIM or thermal pads; that might not be a problem.

    But it might?


    One thing very oldschool PC builders did is submerge their PCs in mineral oil for cooling. This liquid is more innocuous, AFAIK.

    So you could get some in a plastic tray and dunk your components in it. I have no advice for getting the oil off though.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    mineral oil [...] innocuous

    From an electrical standpoint, sure.

    From the standpoint of making an enormous mess if it escapes, it's very much not.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Hmmm, you could just… leave them submerged in the oil? Would that protect them from the smoke? I don’t know. I’ll have to look into these “underwater” builds though because that does sound cool.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    FF here.

    No.

    It's fucking dumb.

    Your mom will be super pissed off when you burn her house down.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Mostly just leave it be. The smoke is on the outside and as long as it's visually clean enough it'll be fine.

    Make sure that ventilator fans still run smoothly, and as needed, replace those, as cooling is extremely important

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    As a guy who's cleaned far too many smoker fucked PCs.

    99% Isopropyl and a tooth brush is what you need. It won't be fast, but you need that kinda precision and attention to make sure you got everything.

    You might also consider just replacing any fans. I don't know if you have a laptop or a desktop, but a laptop fan is a bitch to clean

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    As far as the computer cleaning I have no advice. However, as a former smoker, I do have some other advice:

    May I recommend vaping? Not as healthy as quitting nicotine entirely, but the lack of tar all over everything is SUCH A HUGE PERK over cigarettes. Also your lungs will thank you, it becomes so much easier to breathe after a few weeks of no smoke.

    I don’t recommend the garbage at gas stations unless that’s your only choice, I recommend you find a local vape shop and let them set you up.

    Also, if you learn to mix your own liquid (which is very easy) you can taper your nicotine if you ever decide to quit. Makes it much easier, just a slightly smaller dose each month or two until you’re at 0mg/ml of nicotine.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Long time ex vaper here, maybe think twice about that. No, you're probably not going to get popcorn lung, but there is gathering evidence that the residual pg that runs into your throat is really bad for your gut. I may have developed inflammatory bowel disease because of vaping, and my flare ups have lessened significantly since I switched to pouches. I also became vastly more addicted to nicotine on the vape than smoking, because I could use it anywhere and did.

    Probably the most important thing is to stay away from disposable vapes. There's no way to know the contents of the liquid, the integrity of the heating coil, or even where it came from usually. They are also really strong at 5% salt nicotine.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    No doubt there are health concerns with vaping. But man, it’s such an improvement over smoking that it was absolutely worth it for me.

    And my bowel issues only started a year or so after I stopped vaping, for what it’s worth. 🤣

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    No dunking, and make sure what you're buying is mostly alcohol (> 95%) and not water/alcohol mixtures often used for disinfection. Using in combination with e.g., a toothbrush is probably your best bet. IPA (and acetone) can strip some adhesives and cause certain kinds of electrical insulation to swell or dissolve, so a targeted approach is better. IPA is flammable (though less so than acetone), so be careful/well ventilated when allowing parts to dry, and ensure parts are fully dried before reconnecting to power.

    IPA itself is only about twice as toxic as ethanol and certainly less problematic by inhalation than tar in the long run. I wouldn't bother with a mask mostly because it won't do shit unless it's a cartridge respirator. However, IPA can sometimes facilitate skin absorption. IDK specifically about tar buildup but recommend wearing gloves (disposable nitrile is fine).

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    I'm confused. Unless it's just worded strangely and I misunderstood; IPA is isopropyl alcohol.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Yep, sorry for going between terms. Also, if the confusion stems from just calling it "alcohol" at one point, I was using the word in the more general chemical sense (molecules containing a C-OH group), a class to which isopropanol and ethanol belong.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    I want to clean my PC thoroughly to buy it a few more years.

    Is it not working in its present state?

    If it's working all right, I'd just leave it be, and if you don't want tar buildup in your next case, get a case that has an air filter on it that you can replace, or run an air purifier with a filter in the room.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (28 children)

    As bad as your computer looks your lungs are worse.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I’m not here to condone smoking, but OP isn’t here for unsolicited advice either.

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  • [+] [S] -24 points 9 months ago (22 children)

    My lungs have a self-cleaning feature, and my PC doesn't.

    Feel free to roast me for my lack of tech literacy and dumb ideas, but not my health. I have calculated everything. My body will be fine for as long as it needs to be.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    This answer makes me sad.

    I believe you that you know more about the health impacts of smoking than non-smokers. I noticed you didn't say it was healthy but only that your

    body will be fine for as long as it needs to be.

    My dad smoked from age 17 to 84. His body was fine for a long time.

    However, he really suffered for the last decade between the emphysema and the cancer. The last 3 years in particular were awful.

    The cancer wasn't even that advanced when it was first diagnosed but no-one was willing to operate because of his lungs (general anaesthesia was basically a death sentence). Eventually it metastasised.

    He suffered but it wasn't killing him. I remember one particularly bad emphysema attack near the end, where he couldn't get air, and he was literally begging to just die. Eventually he shot himself. He held out as long as he could for the sake of our family, especially his grandchildren, but he really didn't want to die in the hospital.

    I know exactly how addictive smoking is. My brothers watched my dad suffer and still they can't quit. My dad couldn't quit and he was the one suffering.

    So, this comment is not intended as a lecture or advice or recrimination. It's just a story about a wonderful man with a horrendous addiction. I tell it in the hope that it might be one more nudge to help you finally beat your addiction. Wishing you all the best.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Yeah, I'm reading this, and with what I've seen it checks out. I'm from NC and my family is as well, and the number of deaths that I attribute to smoking in my family is pretty high. Even if you don't die, you often have issues either later in life or for the rest of your life.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 9 months ago

    70 years is more than enough for me. Not planning to spend more with my physical body.

    But thanks for the story. I'll make sure to try and remember it.

    Just as a clarification. How much did he smoke a day? Was it more than up to five cigs a day? Because that is my limit and has been for years. So I could have more than 70 years in me.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    It seems like we should be doing the opposite, you seem to understand tech just fine and are very ignorant about health.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I studied medicine. I have a diploma. I know nothing about the tech accept that it's made of metal and crystals and plastic. And it has lightning in it.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

    Did you study it in kindergarten and nowhere else? Because whether or not your lungs are “self cleaning” or not has absolutely nothing to do with how dangerous smoking is.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Do you really want to have a discussion about that? Because I am more than happy to explain my reasoning.

    The biological body has the capacity to regenerate and self clean. If you live in a place with lots of smog, that's the equivalant of smoking cigarettes. It's like with any harmful thing, moderation is the key. If I smoke up to 5 cigarettes a day and live in a place with little to no smog, I'm much less likely to suffer adverse effects to my lungs and throat than not smoking at all and living in a place with lots of smog.

    In addition, I suspect I have some genetic immunity. My great grandfather smoked more than a pack a day for decades, and he lived to like 95 years old.

    Now, about the lung self-cleaning thing. As cells divide, new cells take their place, and old cells are either metabolised by the body or shed off like skin. Inside your lungs, tissue that's damaged by smoking can be healed, as long as it isn't too severe. Aside from that, lungs secrete mucus when irritated, which is then expelled along with the irritant (in most cases. Things like asbestos and fiberglass just stay in there). Through this natural process, the lungs clean themselves from the inside. As long as the rate of intake of the irritant does not exceed tha capacity for the lungs to expell that irritant, the situation doesn't get worse.

    That is my reasoning. Feel free to give me your take.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Sewers are self cleaning. If you throw a pipe bomb in there it ain’t gonna matter how self cleaning it is.

    I don’t really need to argue the case when there’s decades of science showing that smoking isn’t safe in any amount (including smog).

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm not arguing withg that. I never said it's healthy. I never said it's safe. I just explained my personal justification for keeping this habit. It's not AS unhealthy if you do it only moderately. Can you people stop telling me how to live my life? It's annoying af. And has nothing to do with the question that was asked.

    In theme with your analogy, what you're doing is butting in when two people are arguing over how to clean a room and saying "have you considered not getting it dirty or not having the building there at all?"

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    The problem with explaining personal bad habits and then justifying them with “I have a diploma” is that you are pretending to be an expert and you are influencing others who might not know. People like you are literally exactly why RFK is in charge of health in this country right now and why people are not taking vaccines as much. The death toll is already insane because of the misinformation like what you are spreading. Your “personal justifications” are putting me and billions of others at risk. I take immunosuppressants so it puts me even more at risk (misinformation from people like you).

    Keep your badly justified medical opinions that result in more deaths to yourself. You didn’t need to bring it up, and when you did you made it a moral requirement for @Typhoon@lemmy.ca, @ameancow@lemmy.world and more to correct.

    Smoking isn’t healthy. You spreading lies and using your diploma to justify it will cause deaths, if it hasn’t already (your nonchalance definitely doesn’t end at a single comment on a forum).

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 8 months ago

    Dude... What? Who is RFK? What country are you from? I'm just sharing my perspective. This is why I do it, and why I don't plan on stoping. It is a personal choice. You should go outside once in a while, talk to some real people with real problems. What you are talking about IS NOT REAL.

    If you are dumb enough to start smoking because I do it, then you deserve what's coming to you. I am not liable for other people's stupidity. In fact, if there really are people dumb enough to start smoking because a random person on the internet said they do, they really should take up smoking. They should smoke five packs a day. Tobacco companies and funeral homes need to turn a profit too.

    I never said smoking is healthy. From what I remember I deliberately called it "harmful". I brought up the fact that I have a diploma to insist on the fact that I am educated enough to know what I am talking about. And what I am talking about is my personal health. This is not medical advice. At no point did I indicate it was. Just how far gone are you in your little world view to interpret it as such? Do you see hostility in everything? Do I seem hostile right now? I may be rude, but I have the best of intentions. I'm just not very good at talking to people. Because I thought words mean what they mean in the dictionary.

    But sure, blame me personally for all smoking related deaths. Actually, feel free to blame me for everything bad that ever happened. If that's what helps you sleep at night, be my guest.

    And "your nonchalance definitely doesn’t end at a single comment on a forum" what does that even mean? Seriously, I do not understand. I mean, I guess I can be pretty nonchalant if I really try. But I thought I was anything but nonchalant. So I really don't get it. Or is it that you're saying I'm "casually cool", but not in a good way, more as in cold? And yes, if that's what you mean, I am pretty cold, I don't really get the emotion stuff. But still, I feel that there's a deeper implication there. Is it that you think I am a doctor? I am not a doctor. I am a medical professional, but not a doctor, and I never claimed to be a doctor. I studied in a medical school and passed, that should give at least some credibility to my claims. And my claims are: 1. I am a smoker. 2. I don't really care about the impact smoking has on my health, as I only smoke a little. 3. I have a PC that needs cleaning.

    Also, once again, this has nothing to do with the question posed.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

    Gotta get a lung flute. You'll puke after you see what you cough out. Next smoke hits like a truck too

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    I'd like to hear it. Does it work for other addictions?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    So it's nothing new. I was hoping for something new.

    I could just quit cold turkey. I have that type of mental fortitude. But smoking is literally one of the... I think three joys that I have in my life. So I'm a bit apprehensive about giving up one of the few things that makes me less miserable.

    And before you ask, all of my "joys of life" can be classified as addictions.

    Maybe that's the problem... I literally have nothing that makes me happy and is healhy. I'll look into that. Thanks for making me think about it.

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    Try getting one of those motorized air blasters. The can of air can get super cold and fuck up something delicate. Rechargeable ones don't, and they can get stupid powerful, based on what I've read

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Alcohol will also damage some plastics; i used it to clean a keyboard and keycaps, the keycap stems slowly disintegrated and split apart over time.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Alcohol may mess up some of the plastic pieces, mineral oil might be a better option, that's what people use in the "underwater" computer builds

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