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[–] 17 points 9 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I wish they were sold in the States at a more reasonable price. Murena's prices are ridiculous.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago*

    Yeah it's pricey. I'm on a fairphone 4 and that was easily over $700. I have at the same time had a very easy time replacing the screen when it broke, and have just stashed several of the more breakable components, which it's nice that I can do that super simply.

    I don't think fairphones are much cheaper from fairphone directly, though I might be wrong. Overall, I don't game on my phone, and the fairphone 4 has been able to tackle all my needs pretty well without issue. Most of my gripes come from minor glitches or certain features lacked in lineageOS, but tbf, it's still a very solid OS despite those minor issues.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Based.

    posted from my Fairphone 5

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    I just got a new phone and I'm trying Kvaesitso to move away from Nova, but I just can't get used to it.

    I think I just really like the paradigm of having a 'desktop' where I can freely arrange my most used apps in a specific layout, and Kvaesitso - by intentional design choice - doesn't allow it.

    It's a shame for me because I love the ethos, I love the open-source approach, and I love that it's a wholly original launcher - rather than a fork of the stock or anything else.

    For some it's the perfectl launcher I'm sure, but to me it's like even after I unlock the device I'm still stuck in something that feels like a lock screen to me, and I feel weirdly trapped and claustrophobic.

    Not sure why it makes me feel that way, but it does!

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    I use Pie Launcher on mine, but then again i am a bit strange at times.

    Here is how it looks like for me.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    What is wrong with launcher repositories not placing a screenshot if their launcher in the readme.md

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  • Because some people consider the readme to mostly text and informative. This one does link to the actual website, which does contain screenshots. To answer your question: nothing's wrong with it. 😉

    That aside, I've been on Kvaesitso for quite a while, now, and it's quite nice. You kinda have to get over it being different from a lot of other launchers.

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    [–] 8 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Faiphone is being frog marched out of Australia. Each telco is shutting it down and blocking IMEIs. Sucks for the people that imported them.

    Cant even use it as data only. So unless you use it as puerly on WiFi it's going to landfill. 🙃.

    Also. Lawnchair nightly/beta.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What the hell is going on there? Why??

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    The 3G service was shutdown. The telcos needed to ensure devices can call VoLTE incase of emergency.

    FP5 does this. But it's not officially sold here. So they see a modem there unsure of and now cant confirm if it will reliably call emergency. Easier for them to block it than see it works.

    From what I understand the major telco had some priority VoLTE stuff that made orbit not work. The second major telco seemed to support it as they use more open standards. There's one left and well have to see how that goes.

    It also means telcos can now choose when to drop support for given phone models. Literally force users to upgrade handsets by turning them into WiFi only bricks.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Use this table and try a few. Find one you like. You can check the privacy report for trackers etc on the Exodus site.

    I tried a whole bunch of launchers and settled on Pear launcher. I keep KISS launcher solely for the search (launch KISS search on double tapping the home button). Neo launcher was on its way to greatness, but then development was abandoned.... So if anyone has the skills/time/interest in forking that, that would be great.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    The correct one, Niagara Launcher

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I couldn't be happier than with my Fairphone. Of course, I ditched the original firmware and went for something more lean and privacy-focused.

    It has lots of storage which I also extended with micro SD. Now I have my whole music collection for offline-listening.

    I can even turn the phone completely off by pulling the battery.

    If you complain about your FP, you may wanna try flashing /e/OS or CalyxOS (once they are back) or GrapheneOS (They will port it, soon for the device).

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Any source on the grapheneOS? Because everything that I've read about it says that fairphone just doesn't meet the hardware requirements for graphene's security models

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe I'm wrong about the GrapheneOS. I have no specific source in regards to FairPhone. However, they announced Graphene to be ported to several devices. (It had been Google Pixel exclusive, until now.)

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    The grapheneOS team has stated repeatedly that the fairphone does not meet the requirements for GrapheneOS, they are currently working with a hardware partner to bring GrapheneOS to a (supposedly) new device. This is most likely not fairphone because

    1. Fairphone is not selling worldwide, the annoucement mentioned a worldwide partner
    2. Fairphone does not mean the Hardware rwquirements and (arguably more importantly because it is harder to fix) the software requirements. They do not have timely enough upgrades.
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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Really hard to beat the Fossify launcher. Very similar to vanilla android, available on F-Droid... Far superior to /e/os having icons scattered everywhere.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Kvaesitso is really nice ! And it's open source

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Dragon Launcher. You'd be surprised of how well Radial menus actually work with touchscreens. It's great, you don't want to go back afterwards.

    Edit: radial

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Why not both?

    Fuck I misread bottom text

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  • Dragon launcher is what I use, lawnchair is also alright

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Long time Nova user, trying out others now because the Pixel launcher is too boring.

    Niagara for a scaled down ui. 8 apps on the home screen, rest is in a super easy to reach list on the edges of the screen. Currently on day 3 and liking it. Paid version is either €12 a year or €40 lifetime. Basically all the flashy stuff you see of it is locked behind the paywall.

    Hyperion is good, pretty close Nova relative. UX needs tweaking. Dock and home screen are completely separated so you can open a folder in the dock and one on the home screen at the same time. Minor things like that.

    Octopi I did a quick review of on the other site. Tl;dr navigation / interaction is kinda laggy (gestures, tapping, moving things), doesn't have google feed integration but customization is top tier, better than nova imo. I left it because of the interaction issues.

    Smart Launcher is built around a search function. Not my thing so I moved on quickly. UI/UX is good though.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    Hey, I'm using that. It works fine.

    …well, I have little to no expectations from a launcher beyond "can have pages, shortcuts, widgets, and hide apps", so there's that. It got a few visual customization regarding icons and grid size, and so on. The biggest praise I can give them is that nothing seemed out of place or annoying.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 9 months ago

    I got it configured how I want yesterday. Most important thing is to find and enable the setting that lets you resize widgets beyond what they want to be resized to. If your widgets don't want to be shrunk, that setting will make them shrink.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I still cry myself to sleep after the premature death of Windows Mobile, so I use Launcher10, which brings the Tiles back to life.

    I started experimenting with a super minimalist Folder Launcher, but it doesn't seem ready for release yet, a couple of crucial (IMO) features (like default settings, bulk edits, proper apps list) are still missing.

    There's also Fossify Launcher Beta, which is an open source launcher. It's fairly basic, but gets the job done. A super cool feature of the Fossify apps (since two releases ago) is the option to set your own fonts from a file, so I'm running their Calendar, Phone, Contacts, Calculator, etc., all with the Nothing Phone's dot font.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    have they come up with a reasonably priced “dumb” phone with an eink display?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    I haven't seen any. My wife has a Minimal Phone, which is android, but heavily nerfed in what it can actually run. I can't recommend it though until they fix the connectivity issues. It frequently has problems with wifi and bluetooth, also poor general cellular signal.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    i find that would help with my adhd and distractions. but yeah. a good one is not there yet. thanks though!

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Yeah, the lack of distractions is the man draw I believe (also the qwerty keyboard on it is pretty nice), but it had rough edges that prevent me from recommending it. I had a feeling it would be like that since it is the first and only phone that company had made, but hope springs eternal.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago*

    I wish they'd get their security in order.

    It would be the perfect Graphene phone if they did.

    To answer OP, Niagara Launcher.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I really like octopi launcher

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'd like to buy a Fairphone, but the missing IP68 rating is concerning to me. I really don't want to have to worry about my phone dying if I get into a rainstorm for example, especially while traveling.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    So I have a story for you. I own a fairphone 3+ for a little more than 5 years now.

    Recently, while doing the dishes, my phone accidentally slipped in the sink. I protected it with a phone case and a screen protection, but still, panic ensued.

    I removed the battery as fast as possible, dried it up as best as I could, restarted it, and it worked just fine.

    Well, most of it at least. The jack port took some damage but ended up fixing itself (???) and the usb- charge port refused to charge the phone unless it was tilted a specific way.

    Doesn't matter, I ordered a new usb-c module for less than 30€, and replaced it (i'm not really good hardware-wise, but fortunately, it was pretty easy). Now it works like a charm.

    I feel like an event like this would have been a death sentence for most other phones, and even if it wasn't, my clumsy ass keeps dropping my phone, so it might have been even sooner.

    So far, this phone just refuses to die. It might be slightly outdated and buggy at times (apparently it got better in the last iterations), but it is still very much usable with no critical failure yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    It really shouldn't be hard to make. Im typing this on one and there really is just the back with screws which could be tricky, but a replaceable gasket should do the trick even if it isn't going to survive a few meters of water.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Been using Octopi Launcher, and it's a decently solid replacement for Nova. I actually think it's more flexible as you have customization tucked behind the single long press on your home screen. With Nova I always had to figure out the best way to swipe up from the bottom and more than half the time end up opening the app drawer.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Do you find there to be a split second of delay when you switch to it before it'll respond to pressing things? Unsure if I'm going mad, or holding it wrong, or something.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    wish i could buy one for me :((((

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Try out Niagara. It only takes about 5 minutes to set up.

    If you're like me, you'll think it's too simplistic, you think you want all that nova launcher shit. But do yourself a favor and give it a try. Pick a background, pick an icon pack, select a few favorites and that's all you need to try it out.

    After that if you want to really dig in there isn't much (some of these things are pro features, I can't remember which because I decided to get it so soon after trying it out), it's like 45 minutes at the most to customize your clock, do the custom widget (multiple widgets can share space, you just swipe through), decide if you want music controls on the home screen, and set up pop-ups (like a folder but more, can be in your favorites or your app list), and hide apps from the list (either because they're in a pop-up or you just never use it). And then...that's it, there's nothing else to do.

    I tried it out a while ago when the original developer for nova quit the company that bought nova. Did a quick setup, played around for 30 minutes and bought pro right away. I was very surprised at how much I liked a simplistic launcher.

    You've got nothing to lose but 30 minutes, check it out.

    Edited for clarity about the nova developer quitting.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    +1 for Niagara. I've been using it for quite some time, and I love the simplicity of it. No clutter and just a quick launcher. I have a widget stack for my calendar, tasks, and Firefox search.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago
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    I use the fossify launcher

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    i use Niagara and I like it, but its a little different. if you want a more traditional one ive heard lawnchair is good.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I just tried total launcher. Love most of it, but still trying to figure out things like multiple docks, etc. 

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm on the same train. I recently replaced Nova with Total Launcher and still trying to figure out how to do stuff with it. My home screen is evolving day by day, but generally it has a steep learning curve. Do you maybe know of any good online resources for Total Launcher apart from the official blogspot?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Octopus Launcher has been great so far!

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I wish Fairphone is availabke in my country. Well at least he still have HMD/Nokia, but looks like they recently limited the models they sell here

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Tried several and landed on action launcher.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Pear Launcher is nice. Fossify Home is good, too. I prefer Pear since it lets you use icon themes.

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    you wanna get weird? give KISS a try

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    There's tons of search focused ones, which is weird to me. If you want a normal layout with folders then I suggest you go with Lawnchair: https://lawnchair.app/

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I only really have a problem with ads that are for shite. Ads for things that specifically provide an ethically better alternative to evil and detrimental mainstreams feel more like necessary PSAs

    *evil:

    • uses slave labour
    • uses policies that lead to harm or death
    • actively works to destroy the environment more than fix it
    • funds or is funded by evidently cruel parties
    • Charges unnecessary profits (>50% of cost to make) to benefit upper management rather than fairly pay employees

    *detrimental:

    • farms its users for invasive data or provides the tools to do so
    • Scams customers by charging much higher costs than appropriate

    etc.

    For example, Fairphone is currently an ethically clean company, and with Framework, while the laptop division is clean, the management is not.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Is there something wrong with the Nova Launcher that I should know about?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    TL;DR: Sold off, dev team was (figuratively) slaughtered, OG dev is pretty much out of the picture, new owner is planning on injecting ads into the launcher and we basically know nothing else about the future of it. I.e they're turning it into a cash grab.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I just switched to Dragon-Launcher and like it a lot. Gestures are great to use and the devs are super responsive.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    You're the real MVP mate

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    Checkout Yantra, a minimal launcher that mimic a command line, distraction free but still has a lot of features and is open source!

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah every battery in my 4 lasted a winter before having to be replaced. Not sure that's all that environmentally friendly.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Just discovered graphene runs on my two year old Motorola. Very cool that they support multiple manufacturers.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    So, I use Nova on my Galaxy Note 9. Nova asked me to allow ads. I just kept closing the message until it stopped popping up.

    I don't see ads anywhere on my phone.

    Where are the ads supposed to be? Or is the concern more data harvesting than actually displaying ads?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago