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[–] 33 points 9 months ago

This is an objectively good thing.

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  • [–] 57 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    They're just reading the room. They're not doing it because they think israel is bad, they're doing it because it's economically disastrous to do so. Within the next few years the US will be in the same position if it keeps going the way it is. We'll be too "high risk."

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Why is China the only country reading the room?

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    I disagree. The epstein files prove how captured the entire american political apparatus is by pissrael. In fact, pissrael has done so, to most Global North countries. China taking this stance is actually pretty big when you consider that and the geopolitical implications of declaring their opposition to the American empire.

    The more I learn about China, the more I like. Mostly.

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  • [–] 39 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Wow, I do have to admit that China is on a roll these days.

    Then again, it ain't hard acting like a nice guy with trump around.

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    China cares about Palestinians as much as the US cares about Ukrainians... not much

    Don't pretend like they're good guys. Empires don't care about the lives of people, its just a statistic to them.

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    [–] 96 points 9 months ago (31 children)

    Wow I rarely say this about Chinese government but based.

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  • [+] 105 points 9 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    True. It's a state. I can't think of a time a state did something for purely altruistic reasons.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)
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    Historically the US funded a lot of important medical research. Do you think they did this for altruistic reasons?

    Similarly, healthcare is beneficial to the state to keep workers healthy.

    States do many things, good and bad, but none just out of the goodness of their hearts.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    It's also to say they have principles. It's hard for the USA or Europe to criticize their human rights abuses while continuing to support Israel. It's a way to highlight western hypocrisy while avoiding risk. Remember they still invest into other high risk countries. High risk can lead to high reward.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (22 children)

    The literal hellscape on earth North Korea is right next door, they just recently got done executing citizens for watching a TV show

    There's obviously more to this

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (19 children)

    When they finished executing all those people who watched the show, they executed the people who caught them, for having seen the show too. Then they executed the judges for knowing what a TV show was. Then they executed me for posting about it. (I got better)

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (18 children)
  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    Do you really believe North Korea executes people for watching TV?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Yup and it's not the only country that does.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (15 children)

    Do all the countries you believe ridiculous things about happen to be enemies of the US, which you've never been to?

    I was going to add "or met someone from", but you could probably find a Cuban in Miami who'd say Castro executed their entire family for watching tv.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    You're a dumbass. North Korea"s treatment of human life is well documented Internationally.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (12 children)

    Eh, I heard the same thing about China, then I went there, and I heard the same thing about Iran, but everyone I talked to who's actually been there had much more level-headed criticisms of the government than the horseshit the news makes up.

    Its unlikely that NK is a nice place to live, but 98% of the stuff we hear is obviously fake or wildly taken out of context.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Highly doubtful. Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country. It is a pretty bleak place to exist. If they literally make it illegal for their citizens to have real Internet, chances are your oppressor is doing some pretty awful things. It's why the current American fascist regime has "humored" restricting Internet access. Same reason Iran cut off Internet access during their recent unrest where the government killed thousands of civilian protestors.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country.

    It's important to note that most North Koreans escape to South Korea, where it is illegal to say anything positive about North Korea, and from where they cannot leave for some number of years. So I would completely trust such accounts.

    Also reports about North Korea often contradict other reports about North Korea. It's a mess of truth, exaggeration, rumours, stuff somebody made up, and in one case a satirical news article from Japan or China that Western media took at face value.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country

    Those accounts aren't credible because at any time they can called a spy and imprison. Also because they include laughable claims like that there is only 1 train in North Korea, which they have to pull by hand and "In North Korea, every room has to have a portrait of the Kims. The inspector comes out of nowhere in the middle of the night and touches the portraits. If they see any dust... you can get executed."

    The same person making those claims also says their friends entire family was executed in a stadium for watching TV.

    If they literally make it illegal for their citizens to have real Internet

    Alternatively, they're just trying to avoid the US using the internet to feed their citizens propaganda and organize a color revolution, as they constantly do to all of there adversaries.

    I continue to have no judgement on what NK is like because again, no reliable data.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Covid-19 border closures have made escapes extremely rare since 2020.

    https://www.amnesty.org.uk/latest/north-korea-teenagers-executed-for-watching-squid-game-as-regime-wages-war-on-k-pop/

    Getting out of the country must be so insanely difficult because it's so good there right! Who would want to escape such a paradise?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    Sure, was this after they required everyone in North Korea get Dear Leader's haircut, while also executing anybody who got his haircut?

    Western news sources are not reliable when covering America's enemies. I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who've traveled there, and aren't in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don't promote the state department line.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who’ve traveled there, and aren’t in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don’t promote the state department line.

    Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.

    So from this I assume you will remain ignorant forever?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

    Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.

    For Americans maybe, that's why I'll talk to Chinese who aren't such a risk when I return to China. I met a Russian who had the same shock upon seeing she was lied to about China and wanted to go to NK, I wouldn't be surprised if Russians can travel somewhat freely in NK either.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it's even better since the war started. Do I believe her over all the other Russians/Ukrainians/Moldavians I've met? Hell no. Propaganda is a helluva drug. I'm sure all those places aren't as bad as American media makes them out to be, don't get me wrong, but they're not as peachy as their side says either.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it’s even better since the war started

    Bizarre. I don't know any Russians who haven't commented on the increased propaganda and how expensive everything's gotten. Apparently there's more diverse brands in stores now tho lol. Do they at least mention how expensive everything is?

    I’m sure all those places aren’t as bad as American media makes them out to be, but they’re not as peachy as their side says either.

    That's literally my only point here. There's people who think NK is full of mustache-twirling villains who execute you if you watch a TV show.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Nah, mostly she just complains about pretty normal stuff that's unrelated to that. She'll be back next week, this time she stayed a bit longer than usual, might've felt less like a tourist this time so might have actual complaints. But I doubt it. She's what the Russians would call a vatnik, I think... despite living outside Russia for over 30 years now.

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    For Americans maybe

    I have no idea why you're so interested in making North Korea seem like a great place

    that’s why I’ll talk to Chinese who aren’t such a risk when I return to China

    I have no idea why you'd believe random Chinese who probably believes the propaganda from the Chinese government even harder than you do

    By the way no comment from you on the fact that North Koreans have to escape to tell their stories? That their country is a prison?

    I met a Russian

    You really are knee deep in it eh?

    Last post from me, you should definitely move to China since you love it so much :)

    Picture unrelated

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I have no judgement because I have no reliable data

    I have no idea why you’re so interested in making North Korea seem like a great place

    You understand the difference here right? Not immediately dropping your pants and jerking off while grunting about how bad and evil America's enemies are isn't the same as withholding judgement on something you don't have reliable data on.

    North Koreans have to escape to tell their stories

    I've never heard from a North Korean in a country where they don't risk prison if they don't tell the right story, but presumably there are North Koreans telling their stories in North Korea, Jilin, and Vladivostok, that we haven't heard.

    you should definitely move to China since you love it so much :)

    Eh, I wouldn't want to tie myself to a single place.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    ... since the outbreak of the war in Israel, Beijing has classified Israel as a “high-risk area” and imposed a ban on any new Chinese investments in the country.

    The South China Morning Post, a Hong Kong-based Chinese propaganda outlet, published just last week that China, Israel continue to collaborate in science and tech despite unrest in Gaza.

    While Beijing supports Palestine and has a fractious relationship with Tel Aviv’s closest ally, cutting-edge innovations keep them together.

    In a report published just now in February 2026, Lloyd's Bank explicitly says,

    Chinese investment in Israel has grown rapidly in recent years, particularly in software, IT services and consumer electronics.

    Trade between China and Israel is also at an all-time high since the outbreak of the pandemic, and this hasn't notably changed since the Gaza war (with Chinese exports to Israel have always been higher than imports from Israel, so Israel runs a trade deficit with China).

    It's important to note that this Chinese Ballet Vision fund cites losses of its investment since the outbreak of the war in Gaza, and it seems this is the real issue here. China is heavily investing and trading with Israel. Nothing has changed.

    This is not much more than propaganda, the numbers paint a different picture. China-Israel business ties are stronger than ever, despite Gaza.

    [Edit typo.]

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  • [–] 46 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    since the outbreak of the war in Israel, Beijing has classified Israel as a “high-risk area” and imposed a ban on any new Chinese investments in the country,

    This is not a moral standing by China, it's 100% pragmatic deeming Israel a high risk area.
    There is no reason to call China "based" or any other such crazy comments we see here.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Why isn't any other country making this pragmatic choice?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    A lot of countries have stopped at least some of their dealings with Israel, especially weapons export and import.
    Mind you we don't have an official source that this is true for China, only 1 company that wants to get out of a deal in Israel.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    As far as I can tell it's not "especially" weapons export, it's exclusively weapons export. European arms embargoes are good, but China seems to have gone farther here and stands alone in willing to do a larger general ban. According to the article it's not just one company, China has declared that Israel is a "red zone" for investors and have prohibited any investment. Though, sure, this might actually just be something being made up for the lawsuit.

    The pragmatic choice would be to continue investing in Israel, which is why everyone else still does it.

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  • [–] 23 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Out of all the countries out there.... China?!? is setting the example? (although still a bit late). The western world is going to shit. China is a rising Phoenix. What a fucking dystopia we live in. Because China is still a totalitarian regime.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    They're obviously doing this for PR. As soon as Trump declared Liberation Day, I knew China would use the opportunity to present themselves as the better trading partner. I have seen a recent survey of Europeans saying they trust China more than the US.

    But yeah, as recently revealed, the CIA has uncovered a plot by China to sit back, relax and watch the USA destroy itself.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Pretty much, China realised you can catch more flies with honey rather than vinegar, and it worked. Everyone's lining up to go to Beijing to kiss the ring, especially Europeans.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Well one country is threatening to invade us every 6-ish months, and keeps trying to destroy every agreement we have with them. The other country is sticking to our deals, and doesn't try to fuck us over every chance they get. I wonder why we like China more than USA....

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Yeah, my fear is that European leaders will get too comfortable switching from one hegemon to the other and the root issue of the EU not being able to stand on its own without some sort of guarantor won't ever be solved.

    If China is hegemon, I don't think the EU would appreciate the types of tribute they'd have to pay to Beijing

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    A simple case of killing 2 birds with 1 stone: An economically sane decision can be presented as being ethical to generate good publicity with saps all around the world. Particularly effective now that the USA is in such a bad place that people like to sing China's praises instead.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Wait, this broken clock has the right time on it

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    When our actions align, then take it

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    why can they just sue someone for refusing to buy something

    especially when buying it would be illegal

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    This is fake news, as some others have already have said.

    There is one Chinese fund that doesn't want to buy the remaining minority stake in an Israeli project for financial reasons and it cites this alleged ban by the Chinese government. But such a ban doesn't exist.

    Both trade between the Israel and China as well as Chinese investment in Israel remain a level. For example, as one report on China-Israel economic cooperation by the Middle East Institute - authored by Chinese scholar Dr Zhu Zhaoyi - says:

    On 20 August 2025, Chinese Ambassador to Israel Xiao Junzheng published a signed article in Calcalist, Israel’s largest financial daily, entitled “China’s growth can usher in a new era for China-Israel cooperation”. He highlighted that, while geographically distant, China and Israel remain highly complementary partners [...]

    In May 2025, a dedicated life‑sciences matchmaking event in Tel Aviv led to six new Israeli projects, including energy management systems and carbonates technology, signing agreements to enter the park, underscoring its growing role in emerging-health innovation.

    Meanwhile, the “Guang‑Israel Tech Changzhou Innovation Institute”, co-located within the park, onboarded 10 seed projects, five start-ups, and sealed three industry-academia-research cooperation agreements during its 2025 launch ceremony, highlighting the platform’s increasing capacity for commercialisation and talent development.

    There are many other reports pointing in the same direction. Israel-China ties are strong, including Chinese investment in Israel.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Fucking China showing how it's fucking done! Way to go!

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Chinese government do same things on Uyghurs lol

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