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Fuck LLMs (lemmy.world)
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[–] 62 points 9 months ago (19 children)

Steam data is hardly skewed towards a data center with a lot of RAM, and supports the idea of 16 GB being the default for most users, with a newly increased trend towards 32 GB (that is very likely going to be shattered and revert to 16 GB in 2026 given the current scenario).

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I heard some people are starting to go for older CPU and older gen RAM out of desperation.

    So the amount of RAM is half of the story. Many will not be able to build setups with the current gen of RAM.

    I know I will be stuck to DDR4 for a while...

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    There are literally more amazing games than time to play them if you look the manufactured hype of modern games.

    I can't see a reason to upgrade my 9 year old 7600k with 16gb ram. I still play everything I'm interested in playing.

    Appreciate I won't play AAAs, which I am opposed to anyway with their anti consumer practices.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    Why would the average drop? People already have the RAM so wouldn't we just see it stagnate?

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    As old computers age out of gaming-worthiness and/or just die, new computers are built to replace them, and the high cost of memory may force some to get less RAM.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    But wouldn't people just stick with their current PC instead of downgrade?

    Especially because they very likely can get a better CPU with the same socket, and a better graphics card.

    I find it hard to imagine a scenario where you would go to less RAM instead of keeping what you have.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    What if your GPU or RAM dies?

    I mean as long as your PC is still viable, sure. But at some point even a partial downgrade can be an upgrade in some ways.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    More people buying new computers, new computers have 16 GBs of RAM, average drops.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I just find it hard to imagine people will buy a worse computer instead of keeping the one they have, but I'll happily admit it if I turn out to be wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    RAM is only 1/3 of the most critical components.

    If you have DDR4 on want to upgrade your CPU, you'll end up with a DDR5 MoBo, your old RAM will be useless.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Not necessarily, most people will be able to upgrade their CPU to a better model with the same socket. Sockets aren't updated every time a CPU is released, and most people won't be buying the top of the top even if they were, meaning there's room to grow as prices drop.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    If you have DDR4 RAM, no modern* CPU will fit your MoBo.

    * as in: from the last couple of years

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Well the last couple of years is pretty restrictive. If you're upgrading every few years you'll probably just bite the bullet and pay for the RAM.

    My last comment was basically saying you can upgrade to the top of the line CPU that fits your mobo, giving you an upgrade for not too much cash. Better than forking out for DDR5.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    A two year old CPU with 16 GB of DDR5 RAM will be around two to four times faster than a five year old CPU with 32 GB of DDR4 RAM.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Maybe but hardly anyone had 32GB of RAM 5 years ago so that's unlikely to feed into the average. My original thought was that I don't think the average will go down, because people will keep their current hardware for longer. Maybe we will see mobos with modern sockets and DDR4 support if this drags on, but hopefully the bubble will burst by Christmas and we'll all be picking up refurbished DDR5 for pennies from the decommissioned data centres.

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    • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    Maybe they’ll be forced to spend their time making good games instead of flashier more hyper realistic ones

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    [–] 8 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    Is there a meme community on the fediverse that is active and bans screenshots of text?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    No. I tried to bring that forward here, but simply speaking, not enough people actually care.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Hey mate you can always create your own community or full on instance if you want to. That’s kinda the point of the fediverse

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

    Out of curiosity, why would this be more appealing?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Because text only screenshots from other platforms are just annoying and not memes.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    Agree on that text only screenshots are often less funny but isn't that issue solved by downvotes?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    No, apparently not. I don't know why, but I think many people don't care much about this. They see a post they mildly find funny, upvote, move on. At the same time, comments that voice annoyance get the normal amounts of upvotes, maybe slightly more downvotes but are still significantly in the positives.

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  • [+] [S] -5 points 9 months ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Oh right, so literally any image that gets copied belongs here? That's what you believe? You'd be happy if I just screenshot my desktop showing nothing and posted it here?

    We all know the original definition. We all know that's not what it means now.

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    • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (21 children)

    Where meme?

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  • [+] [S] -14 points 9 months ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Showed the mirror your post, mirror asked "Where meme?"

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  • [+] [S] -4 points 9 months ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah, no. It's not about Spider Georg, it's about screenshots of texts. They don't count.

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  • [+] [S] -3 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    OK here's a brand new idea: there are more forms of memes than just image macros. Hitler reacts videos are also a meme.

    Yeah, a meme can have different forms. I just argue that a screenshot of a tweet withouth further recontextualization is not a meme.

    Got it? No? Still gonna whine? Whatever.

    Ratio shows agreement/disagreement.

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  • [+] -14 points 9 months ago* (11 children)

    anti-ai bots don't understand humor, just hatred and outrage

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago* (10 children)

    Fuck gen-AI though.

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  • [+] -14 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    Yeah well, I don't like crunchy peanut butter but I don't make it my entire identity or treat anyone who disagrees as a mortal enemy.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    You don't mind generalization though.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago* (4 children)

    I sure did insult the anti-ai bots, you are right about that.

    That should not offend people that are not bots.

    You may have your opinions and be a human, but that is not true of everyone who posts on this topic.

    If you're reading 'bots' as 'people I think are dumb' or 'NPCs IRL' instead of 'automated posting done with the use of LLM augmented human agents coordinating in teams' then we're probably having two different conversations.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    I mean, you did imply that I make people who disagree with me my personal enemies based on me commenting "Fuck gen-AI though".

    And why should LLM-bots post anti-AI messages?

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I mean, you did imply that I make people who disagree with me my personal enemies based on me commenting “Fuck gen-AI though”.

    I didn't say you were not a bot, I only allowed that you were possibly a regular human. Though it is sus that you're anti-AI and also being offended on the behalf of bots, hmmmm

    And why should LLM-bots post anti-AI messages?

    The same reason an LLM does anything, because a human prompted them to.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It is almost as if one of those two things is wildly intrusive and affects everything on this Earth for a number of different reasons, and the other is just a food item.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago

    Intrusive? You're not talking about AI itself. I have a 8GB model file and it is not intruding in anything. It's actually just sitting on the hard drive not doing anything intrusive at all.

    What you're talking about are things like Microsoft's CoPilot AI, or Apple's Siri integration or whatever other chatbot service that people pay for. Those service are intrusive, but they were intrusive before AI was invented.

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    • [–] 3 points 9 months ago*

    Windows doesn't even work anymore in 8GB computers. So I'll be really surprised if 12GB wasn't the mode, in a strongly high-skewed distribution.

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    [–] -1 points 9 months ago

    My RAM also comes in fractional numbers. 🙄

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