Every single one of these people in every story still supports Trump. Makes no sense.

Thanks Obama.

They're gonna arrest the immigrant farm workers and then lease them right back to the same farms as slaves.

They didn’t have one, of course, not a realistic one.

When I try to have discussions around this I often take elements of their language and point out that market forces make it unattractive for citizens to work there, but it can be good for immigrants. Sometimes they get it, but often too indoctrinated into the republican party to act differently.

Ironic that about 40% of them didn't vote, so I sincerely hope those 40% are getting rat fucked like the rest of us who voted for sanity are.

Totally get it, super on board, but uh, to circle back to the here and now for a second, we kinda need food? So the situation as it is right now really blows.

Some people are joking about $70 salads, but also there is a point in there. Farming sucks ass a job and if you paid people enough to incentivise folks to do it, that's something not a lot of farmers can do, especially small ones.

So what would an ideal solution be with the technology we have now?

It's the same thing after brexit. I cant find the source anymore. But something like 6000 non-immigrants signed up for farm work and only like ten showed up. And none stayed longer than two days. So it's not like they didn't have a recent example of how this would turn out.

“Where did the lighter fluid come from?”

Haha... Until you remember that we get most of our fresh produce from the States we are going to pay for this in the end.

I don't think undocumented people are included in labor statistics.

So I don't think this will look bad on paper. No farmers are prepared to pay fair wages to staff so it's most likely good food will sit in fields and rot as the prices rise at the supermarket.

That yes, but also more.

One positive aspect of social media is showing the young how the world really works, to an extent I think.

Poor immigrants are generally in a more uninformed and desperate survival situation. Many probably aren't of the mindset "fuck slaving away 14hrs a day for shit pay to make a billionaire richer". They just generally don't think that way yet.

I personally would rather die than be forced to work in those conditions. I sympathize with them and wish they didn't have to either. But they're still currently the ones more desperate and willing to suffer.

I would be willing to help with farm work however, if the pay was significantly better, 4-6hrs per day, 2-3 days per week. But normalizing this would necessitate eradicating billionaires and even hundred millionaires. Obviously not gonna happen.

I'm just sayin' it's more than just white kids are lazy. At least I hope so.

Disagree. There are plenty of people who would do the work, they're just not willing to do it for the amount farmers are willing to pay.

Also, you'd have to be insane to do outside work in both Florida and Texas, now that both states have got rid of mandated water breaks for outdoor workers.

It isn't beneath me. I just don't think I could physically do it as a job. Also, the pay is bad. So, it's pretty low on my job list. I'd rather work a fast food job. And I never want to work one again.

Nice try, racist. Stop splitting the working class up like that. Labor should be paid a living wage and any corp what cannot do that should fail. Race of the worker is irrelevant.

Capitalists have you convinced it is different between races but only because that distraction keeps capitalists exploiting the working class folk.

Ain’t no war but class war.