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[–] 36 points 9 months ago*

Statistical fallacy #420: Assuming the value of a random arbitrary element will necessarily be close to the mean or median of all elements.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I see this meme all the time, which is an oversimplification. The 250 year time frame that people ascribe to is usually assigned to a country's lifetime, but really, the time frame is the average length of a golden era of a country, not its existence. Rome lasted for 2,000 years and China today still exists. When the Chinese talk about this "250 year" thing, they would refer back to how long certain dynasties ruled, not China's existence. Same with Rome having had its peak come and go while it existed until 1453. France also has had several golden ages as the bigger power in Europe from middle ages to Napoleonic era.

    America won't cease to exist, but it will not be the power it once was, and that's okay (except for the ultranationalists). It's okay to be humble.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    My first thought was Egypt was old enough that there were ancient Egyptian scholars studying ancient-er Egypt. I could see it as a particular form of gov generally lasted that long and new dynasties etc would reset the counter. Your explaination makes much more sense.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I just know my shithole red state is gonna become even worse after the collapse. Heres to.hoping Cascadia will accept my family.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Thinking about moving to portland just in case (if I can't make it out the country that is)

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    250 years is an observed pattern, but is not implied to be the cause

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    But what if it’s a slow burn instead of a bang?

    Also, remember how eastern Roman Empire kept going, on an unrelated note, Canada’s economy is actually doing decent compared to the US.

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    so you're saying going to war against a neighboring nation to expand your territory is not what an empire does?

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    the "neighboring nation" I was referring to were the indigenous people. North America was not a blank slate before Europeans arrived. "manifest destiny" was imperialism

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    and my question is why do you think that's not a form of imperialism

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    so, just walking through your own argument as I understand it: situations that are similar to the treatment of indigenous North Americans by the US can be considered imperialism, if it's done by one nation to another nation. but the actual treatment of indigenous peoples by the US doesn't meet that condition. the result of that syllogism must be: between the US and the indigenous peoples, one of them is not a nation. I assume you're not saying that the US is not a nation. so the conclusion must be that the indigenous North American peoples were not a nation, or multiple nations; that there was no political or societal organization in the Americas before Europeans came. is that what you mean, or have I misunderstood?

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    ok I see. my understanding of imperialism is that it encompasses both of those, meaning broadly, expansion of influence, especially (but not necessarily) by claiming areas of land, in order to gain control of resources currently held by others. but I agree, there are two types within that, and the distinction between them is whether the people currently occupying the land (or in particular their labor) are part of the resources that the empire is trying to claim

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Unified Roman Empire which lasted from 27BC to 395AD (422 years): 👀

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Mandated Constitutional Convention every 200 years wouldn’t be a bad idea. Rewrite the whole thing.

    Maybe also mandate the execution of the 1% at the same time. A solid reset.

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    As an American, I am ok with that. I am probably 1% btw.

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    Personally, I look forward to visiting Cascadia, and travelling to the DMZ to point and gawk at the ruins of the new hermit kingdom.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    So Trump files leak is the first day of the Civil War?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    My local pub is older than your "empire"

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