If it's government-related, it could just be a meme.
There's established precedent.

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[–] 53 points 9 months ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

    What do you mean long guns? Worse maneuverability?

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  • [–] 39 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    This is only the beginning. Pedophile rapist is too narcissistic to backdown, admit any wrong doing whatsoever, in fact he will just double down making this situation far worse. We can conclude that ICE are very much a gang of weak trigger happy morons.

    They are weak against sandwiches, car doors lightly tapping them and they are very scared of legal US citizens with properly and legally carried firearms. They will disarm you and execute you in broad daylight if caught legally exercising your 2nd Amendment right. Stay safe US, this is not a great situation and an unprecedented one to be in.

    You've seen it in the news happen to other countries far from you, now it's in your backyard. Welcome to authoritarianism.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If they want to restore public trust, then local Minneapolis and Minnesota officials should be doing this investigation, not biased Trump boot-lickers. Who in their right mind is going to trust DHS led by Noem or the FBI led by Pattel to do a fair, unbiased, and competent investigation?

    Just don't be surprised when the investigation gets terminated for a lack of evidence to being forth charges, or that they determined that Pretti was at fault and deserved to be murdered. President "hide the classified documents in the bathroom" is all about the obstruction of justice.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Body cam footage held by the bootlicking Kash Patel run FBI.

    Probably nothing more than grok produced videos.

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    [–] 127 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    The agents involved in the Pretti shooting were part of the Border Patrol Tactical Unit, an elite specialized force, McLaughlin said.

    “Elite” yeah ok.

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  • [–] 65 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    And what border were they patrolling?

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    All that red is mostly empty space/farmland. It's not what it appears. Land doesn't get to vote.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    It literally does in America.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    Not really. The political entity of a state gets to vote yes, and that does lead to different ratios of senators per person/electoral college votes per person (house representation is divided by population but minimum representation still skews it).

    For example Alaska is the largest state, but in terms of population it ranks 48th. Meaning per person in the Senate it has more power per person than say California. However then you have a state like Vermont that is the 49th most populous state and ranks at 45th in size. Lower land area and population than Alaska. And yet it does have more representation per person in the Senate than Alaska. So it's not land that votes, it's states. Ironically the Senate was set up so "smaller" states like Rhode Island wouldn't get outvoted by larger states like "Virginia". Then since population densities were so much lower the larger a state was generally correlated with a larger population (more space to farm means it can support more people). Then the American west happened.

    This of course also effects the electoral college, but that is divided up by population per state. The issue is each state must have a minimum number once again leading to lower population states getting more say per person.

    And while yes this seems like it needs to reformed, the current events unfolding with ICE does make me want individual states to be stronger and have more authority to push back against the government. Then again if we voted strictly by population we likely wouldn't be in this mess either

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Funny to hear "voting by population" as phrase that appears to be intended to obfuscate the fact that it means "just counting the votes" like literally every other democracy does.

    Also, Vermont actually has exactly the same representation in the senate and house despite a higher population than Alaska, this example supports my statement, not yours.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    That wasn't my intention. I wasn't trying to obfuscate anything. I said it that way to directly point to the reality that it is not done the way every other democratic county does it. Honestly jumping to "he's trying to deceive me!" is aggressive and doesn't give me hope this will be a productive conversation

    Anyway, this is why I said senate representation per person. Since every state gets 2 Senators per state, regardless of population or land area, this means states with lower populations get the same level of representation. Without doing a ton of math this late in the evening let's say in California it's 1 senator per 15 million people. In Vermont its 1 senator per 300,000 people. That in effect is more representation per person. Same thing applies to the electoral college since states get a minimum number of electoral college votes.

    And yeah the same representation for Vermont and Alaska proves my point actually. It's not based on size its based on state. It's not land voting its the state that votes. If land voted Alaska would have more representatives than Vermont.

    Honestly this isn't even a disagreement to your main point. Electoral power in the US is not distributed by population. This is 100% true. It's just that it's divided up by state, not by land mass.

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  • [–] 73 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Fatal killing. As opposed to...non-fatal killing? Who gets paid to write this shit.

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago

    ....which the public will surely never see.

    Nor do we need to because, you fucking idiots, your actions are recorded in detail from six angles (and counting)

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    What can the show us that we haven't seen from the multiple angles of videos? Pretti steps between a woman and an agent, gets sprayed with pepper spray, is wrestled to the ground by multiple agents, they seem to remove his legally carried gun and walk away, then they kill him. It's not a single shot. It's not a burst of shots. It's one shot, a moment of silence, then many other shots to ensure death.

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  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Release the video ... and the Epstein files.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    ICE is a also a diversion from the Epstein files which would bring the orange pedophile down, and he knows the Epstein files will do that. All stops are pulled to keep the Epstein files secret. He desperately moves to instill fear and chaos as a cover and delay tactic.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago

    Wait. There's even more proof?

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago

    We don’t need to see that.

    We know he was not brandishing a weapon. He wasn’t impeding ICE. He was asking them not to push a woman to the ground and recording them.

    He wasn’t resisting arrest. He was trying to protect his head and body from getting beaten. He was unarmed when he was executed.

    What more do you need? Fuck ICE.

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    I would not trust it. Not with AI being a thing.

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