I know meshtastic devices are definitely floating around a ridiculous amount of places
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There seem to be many Meshtastic® nodes around, it's pretty popular
However, it seems that in order to join the network you are forced to buy hardware that uses patented trademarked radio modules (LoRa®)
The website also says:
Meshtastic® is a registered trademark of Meshtastic LLC.
I don't have relevant experience, but I'm looking to maybe join such a network, and being forced to buy specific hardware to join a network that is ran (/developed?) by a single LLC company is not very appealing for a network that is supposed to be resilient, off-grid, peer-to-peer, etc
So I've started looking into https://reticulum.network/ and Nomad network 🤔
Meshcore is pretty impressive, meshtastic is neat too. Not much in terms of bandwidth but the reach is incredible.
After having tinkered with both, I think I prefer MeshNode MeshCore because it tries to reduce chatter and IMO provide a better structure, however Meshtastic is easier to get into as all nodes will act as a repeater too, reducing the amount of setup required to have a functional network. If you're in a medium sized city, there is likely some MeshCore repeaters out there, so you can try it only with only a companion device.
MeshCore seems to have the ability to reach much further away by reducing chatter (64 hops vs 3 hops in Meshtastic)
What is meshnode?
I know the network as a whole goes a long way, but how far can a single message actually be sent? Don't both have a maximum number of hops and a hop is only a few km?
It certainly seems interesting, but I am not sure if it could be useful for me. Especially when no one I know is going to buy hardware for it. Is there a reason these don't extend off the internet? Always thought some kind of internet/LoRa hybrid could lower the barrier to entry as most have internet connected devices already, and exposing them to the network some will realise they could pay less by switching to LoRa instead.
Meshtastic gives you three hops by default (and strongly advises against going beyond that, even if the maximum is seven). The furthest node I see right now is about 200 km away.
MeshCore gives you 64 hops. They can afford that because MeshCore devices send way less telemetry by default; Meshtastic assumes that you want to broadcast e.g. your GPS position regularly. The furthest node I see right now is about 50 km away.
By the way, while LoRaWAN is a thing, neither Meshtastic not MeshCore are really designed for data traffic. Owing to the low (and shared) bandwidth, they're more like IRC over radio.
Oh yeah I wasn't really thinking of downloading porn over it, but internet at least gives a global network to connect into. Text communication is still a form of data and if it can be used normally day to day then you have more infrastructure that people are used to using and is still usable in a disaster as well, even if you lose access to all WAN nodes you should have local communication.
in Germany there is Freifunk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freifunk), based on gluon (https://github.com/freifunk-gluon/gluon) which is based on openwrt.
Let's have a look at the Freifunk Map https://www.freifunk-karte.de/
That is impressive!
Zooming in, i can see villages where i know people. These are very small villages, and the system is in use.
So I imagine it's friends, and family.
And that's ok. A great way to start and build a momentum.
Go Deutschland!
It doesn't actually mesh tho, most Freifunk hubs are just open WiFi hotspots that provide internet access via the usual internet providers.
Take a look at !meshtastic@mander.xyz if your interested in mesh!
Hmm, just had a thought about getting this sort (meshtastic et.al.) of thing adopted more widely. People generally don't need the full speed of their internet all, or even most of the time, they mostly buy a speed they can afford that makes their big downloads (e.g. games, updates, perhaps streaming) more tolerable. If a mesh system could aggregate a bunch of users connections they could probably buy cheaper plans knowing that when they need it they can have the speed.
Anyone knowledgeable in the ways of meshtastic or other such, does it, or anything else you know of fill this niche ? The wallet is always a good motivator...
Presumably ISPs etc would quickly make it against terms of service, but if there's some bucks in it a lot of people won't care..,
I know there are a few mesh routing protocols for openWRT.
Has anyone tried Batman or 802.11s?
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