TL;DR they're just regular smoke grenades.
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Kinda weird that the only evidence of it being HC smoke is a photo of the side of the grenade that doesn't show the model information? Like this should be trivially easy to settle which model this is.
Kinda weird that they are shooting people in the head and lying about it too.
In the article, the expert is not able to definitively say what is being used, as the website is broken and nothing matches the munitions used.
Some specialized labs can test for HC exposure but only within 72 hours so good luck.
I don't trust our government. And I don't want to just hope that this isn't as bad as it seems. I want actual accountability and oversight. This is the regime that has set the EPAs value of human life to $0.
Also, people should be aware that it could be HC gas. They should know how dangerous it is and that a gas mask won't stop it from being absorbed through the skin.
... Who's trusting the government? I'm curious about the basis for the claims, afaik ICE hasn't said anything substantive about the smoke.
That said there are plenty of videos of ICE standing around in the smoke unmasked, and the MJ article above has found the same casing on a product that isn't HC smoke, but it's a different color. The substack article that claims this doesn't provide any more proof than a blurry photo of a spent casing, and it's a claim that does actually need something to back it up.
I don't think the burden of proof is on the victims of a tyrannical regime.
Update:
- Chemical irritant canisters (like what is used to saturate an area with CS gas) can burn as hot as 800°C, so taking one for evidence is not easy to do.
- The burden of proof should be on the government to prove what they are using and that anyone under their command is following the correct procedures. If if anyone is found to be in violation, they should be investigated at the least. That is not what the regime is doing, they are simply denying without proof, going as far as to say they aren't even using chemical munitions.
(You don't touch them when they're on fire - just pick them up out of the gutter after it all goes down, ICE doesn't clean up after themselves.)
Burden of proof is on the person making the claims - and in this case I am highly skeptical of anyone providing such poor evidence who are then trying to make the claim that protesters should be afraid of the same green smoke that ICE is walking through unprotected and unfazed. Even better quality photos would make this more credible, and for something this important it's weird they're not trying to appear as credible as possible.
The next time my community is invaded and everyone living within is terrorized with chemical weapons and lead, I'll remember to go look for the proof in the streets for the crimes of the state.
Replying again to point out I appear to have been correct - other people have found the canisters and posted photos of the label side which show they aren't the HC gas model.

So... yeah, seems weird that the initial sources didn't do this with the canister they had.
Whatever it is, every ice agent should be forced into a room filled with it.
And then leave em there. Like, just lock the door and walk away.
Right. No food. No water. Not my problem.
I can't speak to their training processes, but I went through a room full of tear gas during my Navy CBRN training and it was not particularly pleasant but quite survivable. I'm not sure such mild conditions are quite what's needed in the case of ICE agents.
tldr
We don't know what gas grenade it is or what's in it. But there is old data from grenades that look similar, and those old grenades are safer than normal tear gas grenades.
But we don't actually know what they are. They could be anything.
Whatever this is, tear gas, cs gas, is not harmless as is often thought. It causes permanent damage, and is actually a nerve agent, different than what we call nerve agents, but it hits pain receptors in nerves.
Likewise pepper spray would not cause permanent damage but I heard it is often mixed with pfas and other poisonous shit but idk on that source, the tear gas bit was in propublica in 2020 during the blm protests.
It's just a regular ol' smoke grenade like the military uses for signaling. At least so say some people on the ground in Minneapolis who recovered one of the canisters.
Greg Bovino is the Green Goblin!
Spider Man reboot to an all new grittier universe!
“The green dyed smoke suggests high toxicity to protesters,” he adds, “but the effect is more psychological.”
This isn't saying that it's not toxic or dangerous, it's just pointing out that once again they are adding in a layer of purely psychological terrorism, which should be of no surprise to anyone who knows how much these pathetic evil fuckers rely on kayfabe. The green dye is added for a dramatic flair.
They're dangerous, and you can't underestimate them, but don't forget they're hoping to put you in trauma by being as fucking overblown and dramatic as possible. Consider it a deliberate cutesy attempt to add insult to injury for the benefit of their own ego.
If you know how mentally ill narcissists operate, you should understand the thrill they get from constantly terrifying a captive audience.
They're not even the first dramatic little bitches to use green gas. They just ripped off the fucking Joker and Smylex because nothing they do is ever original.
The Minnesota tribune article calls out the manufacturer directly: https://www.startribune.com/border-patrol-greg-bovino-smoke-canister-chemical-spray-ice-protests-observers-minneapolis-dhs/601568184
Luhmann took video of one of the empty smoke canisters, which is labeled as “pocket tactical green smoke,” made by the company Defense Technology. The back states that it should be used only by “trained law enforcement, correctional or military personnel.”
Below that, it states that anyone using the canister “should be trained in deployment, decontamination and first aid procedures.”
Defense Technology (and their shareholders) should be having their names spread far and wide for selling weapons to terrorists murdering American men and women. Hit them and all their enablers in their fucking pockets.
https://business.casperwyoming.org/list/member/defense-technology-llc-1232
Here is the company's contact information including phone number, fax, and address for domestic sales in Casper Wyoming. They should open bright and early Monday morning so give them a jangle at (307) 235-2136 and let them know if you're satisfied with their products.
It really should be said that this expert is talking out of his ass here. He hasn't positively identified the specific gas being used, just a similar product by the same manufacturer, and he definitely hasn't actually measured nor tested the gas at the scene. It's an educated guess, but still a guess.
What you described isn't "talking out of his ass". It's making a logical hypotheses based on the info provided. You even contradict yourself by calling it an educated guess.
I say that because, from a safety perspective, his advice should absolutely not be relied on when determining whether or not the gas currently being used is safe.
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