On Wednesday, nine Democrats voted with Republicans to hold Bill Clinton in contempt of Congress, while three Democrats voted to hold Hillary Clinton in contempt. 

If the full House votes in favour, the Department of Justice would decide whether to prosecute the charges, which is a misdemeanour offence punishable by a fine up to $100,000 (£74,500) and imprisonment up to a year.

In a statement, Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer urged the full House to hold the Clintons in contempt, saying his committee had sent a "clear message" that "no one is above the law, and justice must be applied equally—regardless of position, pedigree, or prestige". 

The Clintons had contended the subpoenas - a legal orders to provide testimony - were "nothing more than a ploy to attempt to embarrass political rivals, as President Trump has directed".

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[–] 69 points 9 months ago (18 children)

The GOP have such a hard on for the Clintons.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (15 children)

    Bill is legitimately a criminal. In a just world the Democrats would be going after him just as hard, and the Republicans would be going after trump. Tribalism gonna tribal I guess.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    He's not a 34 time felon currently in charge of the white house using his position to prevent the release of the Epstein Files.

    This isn't tomato, tomaato. Bill has no power here. Trump does. And he's using it to go after someone that hasn't held office in decades.

    It's a sad gesture of justice at best, or completely fucking deranged at worst.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

    We don't have to choose one or the other. We should be trying everyone who was on that island.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    No offense, but seeing as Trump is literally the only one preventing the release of the Epstein Files, now illegally against the will of Congress, yes you do have to choose one over the other if you actually want justice.

    Instead, our tax dollars are going towards arresting Bill Clinton. If you want to try everyone on the Island, that literally MUST start with the person illegally stopping that from happening. Or it will literally never happen. Just like Trumps Tax returns, Wall, and Health Plan.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    yes you do have to choose one over the other if you actually want justice.

    No, you don't. Trying Clinton won't prevent trump from being tried. If Bill Clinton never existed Trump would still be interfering in the release of the files to protect himself. If you're suggesting that trying no one at all serves justice better than trying Clinton I vehemently disagree.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (10 children)

    If you're suggesting that trying no one at all serves justice better than trying Clinton, I vehemently disagree.

    I'm quite frankly stating this serves Trump far more than it serves justice.

    It's a very clear attempt to further avoid justice by blaming Clinton in place of Trumps crimes. Resulting in Clinton being literally the only one punished as a fall guy narrative for Trump. Making an entire side of the scale of Justice permanantly held down by an orange fist.

    If you want to get on a pedastal about Justice, maybe start at the top instead of at the bottom. Where you're claiming what's clearly injustice, and would never happen in a world where this was being handled by adults, is actually kinda fair if you just squint and don't look at the "in" part of "injustice."

    Choosing to find righteousness in Clinton's arrest over rage is the banal acceptance of authoritarianism in place of anything resembling a just society.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

    So you're saying we should let a child rapist walk so trump doesn't get what he wants. That's certainly an opinion I guess.

    Personally I'd like to see Clinton blamed for Clinton's crimes and Trump blamed for Trump's crimes.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (8 children)

    So you're saying we should let a child rapists walk so trump doesn't get what he wants.

    No. That's what you want me to be saying in place of what I am.

    Here's what I'm saying:

    Pedo authoritarianism for Clinton is not the same as justice for him and Trump. No matter how much you want it to be.

    Because there's a clear difference between a justice system where innocence is presumed, and the one we now have where the opinion of an admitted pedo is used to determine guilt.

    You're saying both of these systems provide the same quality of justice. I'm saying they very clearly don't.

    Do you honestly believe Clinton would have a fair trial under the Trump administration? Yes or No.

    If you agree with me that, no, he clearly won't. Then you agree that nothing that would happen in that trial could be considered fair or even believably "just." Which means that any "justice" served in that trial is poor at best, and immediately questionable in its accuracy and application at worst. Which means that such a trial would fail to fit the definition of justice at all. Because that's political persecution, just now poorly cosplaying as justice.

    Just because a mall Santa looks like Santa, doesn't mean he is actually Santa. Just because the word "justice" is a part of the DOJ, doesn't mean they actually serve justice. As evidenced by their continued, and now illegal protection of the Epstein Files and those of their own cabinet inside them. They are about as far from the definition of "just" as you can get.

    Same as you pretty much admitting no trial is needed to determine Clinton's guilt. You're good with just the opinion of a admitted pedophile saying he is in determining what's "just."

    Here's said pedophiles opinion on how young of a kid he's admitted to fucking:

    https://www.thewrap.com/trump-age-limit-howard-stern-interview/

    “If I- No, no, I have no age–. I mean, I have an age li…” Trump replied. Then, when asked to provide his “upper bracket,” Trump said, “I don’t want to be like Congressman Foley, with, you know, 12-year-olds.”

    Show me Clinton saying anything remotely the same if you want me to assume his guilt to the degree you already have. I'd much rather wait for a fair jury to determine that. Something that in all likelihood will now never happen.

    If you actually cared about Justice as you've been virtue signaling, you wouldn't be acting as if Clinton is guilty at all. He's not on camera talking about the youngest kids he's fucked. He's not in the Epstein files in reference to killing infants, raping teens, and killing children to dispose of evidence.

    Yet you readily accept the guilt of Clinton for doing all those actions, not the person who made them whose opinion you so readily prefer to a judge or juries.

    Because you want authoritarianism, and only I want justice. They are not the same. Even if you are unwilling to notice. Unlike you, I'm not willing to blindly accept fascism as a substitute for justice just because a pedophile told me it's the same thing. Yet that's very much the choice you keep continuing to make here, whether you know you are or not.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Pedo authoritarianism for Clinton is not the same as justice for him and Trump.

    Alright, well, you wrote a lot of stuff after this, but that's where I stopped reading. This vomit of pure gibberish, that you apparently believed was a coherent sentence, is what you led with. This was your thesis statement. Sit back and reflect on that.

    The is solid evidence that both of these men raped child sex slaves. Both men should be tried and, if convicted, thrown in prison. If you don't agree with that you're trash. That's all I have to say on the subject.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    The is solid evidence that both of these men raped child sex slaves.

    Nope. There isn't. You're lying. Show the evidence for Clinton like I ready did Trump. Show the evidence you claim you have for Clinton, or you are supporting fasicm, not justice. Period.

    I already know your response will just be more anger instead of any proof of what you're angry about.

    So show me your anger doesn't come from a fucking vibe, and maybe then I'll believe your bullshit righteousness isn't bullshit.

    Until then, I'll take your lead and assume the worst of you.

    That you've fully given up American values in exchange for vibes. As easily proven by you actively calling for the unfair persecution of a man you can't even prove is guilty. Something I guarantee you will fail at providing in your next response.

    Once that happens, you are again choosing to defend fasicm instead of growing up enough to know what it looks like.

    Respond with your "solid evidence," or you're asking for fasicm not justice. Something I didn't have a problem with because I'm right.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Oh look another wall of text I'm not going to read

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    No shit. Words scare fascists like you. Real Americans fight for words to be said, even if they don't like em.

    Thanks for making it very clear which of these two categories your behaviour is in to everyone but you.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    Are you still championing clemency for child rapists? You must feel very strongly about allowing pedophiles to escape justice if putting them on trial looks like fascism to you.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Nope. I'm listening to an idiot trying to convince me the opinion of a verifiable child rapist is true without using any form of critical thinking or evidence.

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  • [–] 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What's the statute of limitations on contempt? I agree they are in contempt, but so are a bunch of Republicans that defied congressional subpoenas. I'd say lump them all together if you want to truly send a message.

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  • [+] 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That has been what law is since its inception

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago

    Clinton has the chance to do a very funny thing. Confirm the blowjob, blow this thing wide open

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago

    Willie could just be like "Yep. I was there. Trump did it. All of it."

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  • [–] 26 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I want bill to testify under oath on live tv and with his first words he immediately throws Trump under the Epstein bus.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    As I understand it, that's the whole issue. They were subpoenaed to testify non-publicly, and told the committee they would only do so publicly. The committee declined and here we are.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    This nothing new. Republicans have had nothing but contempt for the Clintons for over 30 years.

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  • [–] 27 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    First of all, LOL, what a clown move by a clown committee.

    Second, I don't give a shit about the Clintons and neither should anybody else. I would have loved for them to be held accountable for contempt, if it weren't for the fact that the committee itself lacks credibility and deserves it.

    Third, I'm just hoping for the silver lining that liberal Democrats learn the hard way what they should've done with that power, back when they had the chance to wield it against MAGA fuckwads legitimately.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    If he raped little girls, you don’t think those now grown women should give a shit? Why shouldn’t they again?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    What the fuck? Was it not clear from context that "I don't give a fuck about the Clintons" meant "I don't give a fuck about protecting them from the consequences of their actions?"

    Clearly you're looking for something to be outraged about, but my comment ain't it.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Personally it wasn’t clear from the context. I read it as “I don’t care about the Clintons” meaning “I don’t want to hear or see news about the Clintons” which, when followed by “and neither should anyone else” kinda makes it read like “this article is not news and no one should care” but that’s just how I read it. I appreciate you clarifying though

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    So Clintons get contempt but Bondi doesn't get any repercussions?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    ...and the DOJ?

    What are these fucks doing about the DOJ giving the law the finger?

    Of course nothing, they can't run fox news headlines about that, it would upset Donnie Dipshit.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Contempt is a Crime?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    While ignoring how often Trump appears in the Epstein Files (and probably deatures in many if the redscted sections) and that the White House srill hasnt released all the files, ignoring law it supposedly supported. You know, just pursuing the truth like thelGOP always does.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Buttery males.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago
    4 comments in c/usa@lemmy.ml view that post
    [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    ...ok but also hold Bondi and anyone else responsible for withholding the Epstein files in contempt too.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Nice. More previous administrations need to be held accountable, even if for the wrong reasons.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Gym Jordan must be scared that the chickens are coming home to roost.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago
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    [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    In a statement, Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer urged the full House to hold the Clintons in contempt, saying his committee had sent a "clear message" that "no one is above the law, and justice must be applied equally—regardless of position, pedigree, or prestige".

    Until they subpoena Trump the same way, since there's ample evidence he's more involved than they are, any sort of comments like this are just political.

    And despite the Clintons being correct that it is an attempt to embarrass them (ignoring everything they've don't to embarrass themselves more), ignoring Congress is also an embarrassment regardless of the situation. They should get the book thrown at them just like anyone else ignoring subpoenas. If only so they finally go the fuck away.

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    [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    what does 'is' mean? 'i did not have sex...' with epstein

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