“A food scientist debunks the vilification of seed oils on social media and explains what research says about them.”

https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetable-oils

At this point there’s still quite a bit we don’t know about vegetable oils. Consuming small amounts of vegetable oils might make sense for some of us, depending on lifestyle, food preferences, and other factors.

However, if your goals include eating less processed food — as ours do — the best course may be to avoid these newcomers and return to traditional dietary fat sources. Get your fats from whole foods, including avocados, oily fish, nuts, seeds, olive oil, traditional oils, butter, coconut oil and meats.

References in abundant detail at url above.

Seed oils represent a very new hyper processed food, and complicate getting people's metabolic health back on track. Importantly they are not essential for health, so removing them simplifies cleaning up someone's diet.

Seed oils are great. Anyone telling you otherwise probably thinks that ivermectin is an appropriate treatment for COVID.

I was deep in the anti veg oil crowd for a little while. They believe that the veg oil is higher in omega 6 which is necessary but can be harmful if you have too much.

I think it's just another scapegoat. People aren't getting since because they have seed oils in their diet, it's because they eat too much highly palatable, calorie dense non nutritive foods.

If getting healthy is the goal you're better off just focusing on eating mostly whole foods and minimizing your intake of those highly palatable, calorically dense foods.

I really am out of the loop now. I had no idea that “influencers” 🙄 are pushing vibe based health advice regarding cooking oil. That just seems so oddly specific? Why is this a thing?

However, on the other side, there’s an oxidation that occurs in oils, and when those oils oxidize they start to decompose into a whole variety of compounds, some of which, in animal studies, have shown to have some toxicity.

you have to make sure that you maintain the oil in the freshest state possible.

This is the issue, most fast food places don't replace their rape oil anywhere near enough, because oil costs money.

I'd also question the statement "omega-6, has not been shown to increase inflammation.", "not been shown to" is a bit of a scientific weasel phrase that's used when there's conflicting information. We do know that omega-6 oil is broken down to arachidonic acid, that does play a role inflammation.

I have never been big on macronutrient things overall. I was raised on margarine and prefered the flavor but as an adult I have a bigger appreciation of butter but my wife and I for some reason love brummel and brown. Neither of us can explain why we are aware it does not have active cultures or anything that would give it a health advantage. Its literally the taste. Love avocado oil for its taste and high smoke point and coconut for taste. olive is fine and sorta neutral to me (which is funny because i have read avocado is the neutral one). I take fish oil pills because it has a noticable positive effect on my dry eye and now that I have been on them I really notice if I forget to take one. I like to add collagen to anything I can as its cheap and there is this whole thing from studies around cron with glycin to methionine ratios and im to lazy to keep real bone broth going. I do think its good to limit simpler carbs and fats. I view it as an arc that goes from sugars to simple carbs to fiber to protein to fats where fiber is the top and most healthy).