oh, they're helping consumers by not supplying them with memory. My bad, the nuance was lost on me. Thanks for the clarification
Good lord AI is cancer
oh, they're helping consumers by not supplying them with memory. My bad, the nuance was lost on me. Thanks for the clarification
Good lord AI is cancer
"Customers" being Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, Dell, Asus. You are no longer a customer.
Micron share price

Yes that's what a bubble looks like.
This time its different - trust me bro™
Stock price wise the company is clearly worth more because it's selling more and making massive amounts of money and by massive I mean they're printing money right now
The other part is that the 3 major players SK Hynix, Samsung and Micron have basically said they don't want to oversupply the market and when the AI bubble pops have memory prices go through the floor again, so they are treating this as if it's a bubble and in a few years time the demand will subside, so they are not blowing up all their capital to expand as quickly as possible
"This follows reports earlier this month that the price for DRAM sticks of memory for desktop computers had increased by over 170% year on year. Mostly driven by the high demand for building new AI-focused data centers, memory makers aren't planning to increase production either, on the off chance the demand dries up."
I saw Samsung may already be in the process of building a new fab but i cbf looking up further, basically looks like higher memory prices, for longer, with no oversupply glut with cheap prices once the bubble pops like in the past :(
SK Hynix are building more supply, I thought I saw: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/sk-hynix-to-spend-usd13-billion-on-the-worlds-largest-hbm-memory-assembly-plant
May be misinterpreting that, though.
What an absolute non-answer Moore provided.
Remember which companies are pulling this nonsense and boycott them going forward.
That was a pretty telling answer. They want you to have a smartphone that you do everything on without owning a PC, the idea is to push everyone to cloud based gaming and general cloud based compute.
It's fucked and I hope it all backfires but unfortunately there's enough normies that will just accept the tech presented to them without question when it's similar to the last tech.
I was starting to group together my older computers for potential recycling, but they’re now going to be repurposed after thorough testing. Not a fan of where big tech currently wants to go
China has a couple of years to figure out how to make RAM at decent prices.
They will manage somehow and will become leaders of the consumer market.
The bubble will burst and will fuck everyone involved.
China will by then have their RAM on every consumer device and these shitheads will all go: "omigosh! How this could happen? Nobody could have predicted this!"
If their progress on GPUs is anything to go by, it will take them at least a decade just to catch up to current DRAM state of the art. And it's not like there was no incentive to build good GPUs for the last 10-15 years.
Of course they could get lucky, or could steal technologies to accelerate things, but I wouldn't count on it happening quickly either way.
Of course they could get lucky, or could steal technologies to accelerate things
Good news everyone https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/samsung-engineer-accused-of-leaking-10nm-dram-process-data-to-chinas-cxmt
I'm not happy with China getting this tech and potentially becoming a monopoly in consumer DRAM. But the other option right now is becoming a cloud slave for burgerlander billionaires that are actively fucking everyone in the world so what can I say?
This guy's a hero! Go China!
My dude, most stuff is already manufactured in China, they've had a more or less a monopoly on consumer goods for decades, why is this really any different?
The fact that they already have a de-facto monopoly on consumer goods doesn't mean I want them to have another one for other products.
I'd rather they kept the consumer market alive if everyone else is sucking off billionaires, unless you have some other plan, no one else does manufacturing quite as efficiently
As I said in my first comment, I am not happy with it, but the other option is worse.
I am aware this is the lesser evil, hence "Go China".
10 years is not a long time and once the cat is out of the bag it's rather difficult to get it back in.
It was the same for other manufacturing. You can't manufacture most commercial items at a competitive price not just because the difference in labor cost but because there's simply nobody left that is capable of doing it at scale in the US or Europe.
Micron: "But guuyyyyyyys... What about the money? We could be making so much more money!"
Let me help you by not selling you what you want. What do you mean "stop pissing in your eyes"?
What a bunch of bullshit. He is "helping" thier profits and nothing more while directly fucking over consumers. Micron was the best/safest company to get memory from for picky devices, especially since their site could confirm direct compatibility. Now everyone loses except them and the AI companies.
I'm looking forward to the cheap GPU that will hit the market during the AI fire sale.
Gratz, what you doing with your 200 GB VRAM and absolute lack of gaming performance?
Running my AI girlfriend
That you can't plug into a traditional computer and that has not even pads for a video connector to be soldered to.
Folks just don't realize how exotically different they have ultimately made the GPU packaging for datacenters. B200/B300 come in very specific packaging that is nowhere near a PCIe card.
I wonder how VALVe will tackle this and I really hope they all already made 3 year contracts for a fixed price.
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