Years ago I became a customer for MAIL. ** JUST. MAIL.**

I now have access to
VPN
-Don't care, don't want. I use a different service.
Drive
-I'd rather eat my own head than trust someone else's computer with my files. I self host.
Docs+Sheets, storing the documents in the abovementioned "Drive"
Are you joking?
ProtonPass
-Use a different self hosted solution
Wallet
-Not on your @#^ing life
Lumo AI
GFYS

Every single time I find out more trash got glued to my account I get angrier.

Either provide a "Mail+Calendar ONLY" package for a discount or prepare to lose a customer.

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[–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You're not the only one to say so

That said, you don't have to use what you don't want and the lower price tiers only have the mail.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    I like that youtuber. I'll be sure to watch that vid when I get home later. At this point if they won't give us a "no bloat" package I'm likely to go to Tuta this year. Already using my own domain so it's hardly going to be difficult.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You are the crazy one.
    You're literally complaining about getting more products and services for the same price.
    Do you have any evidence that your imagined Mail+Calendar service would be cheaper or better, if not for all these other things? Or is it all just assumptions on your part?

    I genuinely don't understand why you and so many others apparently Want to dislike Proton. Want to dislike it so much, you make up these silly nonsensical excuses.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    Did the price go up? Or did you just get more features that you don't need to use?

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  • [+] [S] -8 points 10 months ago (11 children)
  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    The price has not increased due to the new things your subscription now includes. You are paying no more money than you did when you were only paying for email, if you've used Proton for that long. You are still paying the same price and only using email.

    Your gym adds some new basketball courts and doesn't change the membership price. You don't play basketball, so you complain and tell the gym they should lower your membership price?

    Your favorite deli likes you so much that they start giving you two sandwiches every time you order one, and you think that since they can offer you this you should be given the option to pay less for a single sandwich?

    Depressing mindset.

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Weird logic. They're "giving" me stuff I don't want for my money. Sure. They're also spending all their time adding and maintaining things that are NOT what I'm here for. That means "mail" is suffering.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Has your Mail experience been reduced in any way?

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    I mean- versus them hardening and improving Mail with all that money and time?

    Also yes- it's infected (by default) with an AI writing assistant

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    So you wanted to pay less for the same product? That's what you're upset about? You expected proton to lower your prices?

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I signed up with Mail+Calendar.

    Every following product was unwanted and went un-used. It seems to me their intention is to neglect mail and shovel-ware from here on out.

    If I'm the asshole here that's fine. I'm just looking to understand why.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago

    As the other guy said, I don't complain about my gym prices when they add some rowing machines, even though I never use the rowing machines.

    What do you feel they are neglecting about the mail app? What gesture do you want added?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    It definitely gives me a weird feeling to see them becoming bigger and more all-encompassing. And the way they bought SimpleLogin and did nothing with it but keep the dev too busy solving problems to implement any of the features that were planned up until that point didn't really give me a great impression of them as a business, either. I stopped using them a long time ago.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I do worry that that their service sprawl is going to detract from overall quality of said services. Email, Calendar, Drive, and VPN would have been a perfectly fine ecosystem. Now they're doing AI shit too, I guess?

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    You're paying the same price that you started paying years ago, which you must believe is worthwhile because you've been paying it foe this long, and you have more features available to use, which you can choose not to use. This is a ridiculous complaint.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    Either provide a "Mail+Calendar ONLY" package for a discount or prepare to lose a customer.

    ...they already offer exactly that.

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Please link? I don't see sh*t in my account to "downgrade" my package beyond what it currently is- "Mail plus", which has access to everything I listed, including Lumo AI slop.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Mail Plus, as the name suggests, is Mail+calendar.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    My Mail plus has all of the pictured, with no "restricted, upgrade your plan" messages for any of them.

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