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Done with this shit (piefed.social)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/piefed_meta@piefed.social
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[–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

I am not sure I really understand the gripe. If you have an issue with piefed just switch instances? Isn't that the whole point of decentralization. Don't like one place, just move to another that has all the same features and content without the same issues? I am pretty sure I have like 5 different accounts at this point.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago

    The point of decentralization would be to resist censorship for me, hence nostr

    Why would I want "decentralization" if it's just echo chambering? You might as well say X and YouTube and Facebook are "decentralized" because they don't all have the same CEO or something.

    Why does piefed/lemmy even have "federation" if the point is to box yourself into a tiny echo chamber and block all the other instances?

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    • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Reddit absolutely "is this bad". If you get blocked on Reddit, you can't even see the replies of the person who blocked you.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I spent years on reddit and got back on it recently and never encountered this issue a single time.

    There are subreddit bans which warn you before you waste time typing, and I'm pretty sure if a comment is removed you can still recover it to copy and paste.

    If blocking someone on reddit works the same way, maybe it's not a problem because the front page of every subreddit I've ever been on has zero posts from the kind of people that block a good contributor like me.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Sorry, but that's precisely how reddit works. If someone blocks you - all you see is [unavaliable] when they post.

    There are subreddit bans which warn you before you waste time typing, and I’m pretty sure if a comment is removed you can still recover it to copy and paste.

    This is true (unless it's removed by reddit), but this is just the difference between how activitypub works vs. reddit so far as I know.

    If blocking someone on reddit works the same way, maybe it’s not a problem because the front page of every subreddit I’ve ever been on has zero posts from the kind of people that block a good contributor like me.

    Reddit is massive. I have no idea how active you are on there, but the likelihood of you finding a poster on the frontpage of a subreddit that has blocked you is marginal.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 10 months ago

    Sorry, but that’s precisely how reddit works. If someone blocks you - all you see is [unavaliable] when they post.

    I barely remember that happening at all in thousands and thousands of hours on reddit. And it's still better than having time wasted typing a comment that disappears.

    Reddit is massive. The likelihood of you finding a poster on the frontpage of a subreddit that has blocked you is marginal.

    Alright, perhaps I overreacted and piefed deserves to have reddit's head-start growth factored in before judging.

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    • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    How is this deceptive or harmful? From my understanding it’s stop people following others around and harassing them. Since muted people can follow you around and comment on your shit but now you can’t see them.

    Why would you just not block them back so you’re essentially invisible to each other? Instead of getting mad you can’t engage some that specifically pressed the “don't let this user engage with me” button.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    How is this deceptive or harmful?

    Are you asking how propping up deceptive and harmful people is deceptive and harmful? The question doesn't seem to make much sense.

    From my understanding it’s stop people following others around and harassing them.

    So are you asking how propping up deceptive and harmful people is deceptive and harmful, or are you saying you don't understand how the goal here is to prop up deceptive and harmful people?

    Since muted people can follow you around and comment on your shit but now you can’t see them.

    Correct, that's how muting works.

    Why would you just not block them back so you’re essentially invisible to each other?

    I did, but now why would I keep looking at other people's posts here at all? You think I want to keep finding people to block? How would that benefit me or be a use of my time?

    Instead of getting mad you can’t engage some that specifically pressed the “don’t let this user engage with me” button.

    Why would you not get angry at censorship? And are you completely forgetting the part where the posts disappeared without letting me copy and paste, or ignoring it on purpose, or just doing a really bad job making me understand how your thought process addresses it?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    I’m asking you how you think blocking, a feature of a majority of social media platforms (including reddit as pointed out already) is deceptive and harmful. Largely rhetorical because it’s an absurd assertion. Just because people use a tool in a “deceptive and harmful” manner (whatever that means) doesn’t mean the tool becomes inherently those things and again is a key feature for users to deal with harassment where muting is insufficient.

    I did, but now why would I keep looking at other people's posts here at all? You think I want to keep finding people to block? How would that benefit me or be a use of my time?

    Given how far you’re trying to take blocking out of context to frame as a bad thing; I don’t think your leaving is going to be a great detriment. Being able to block someone != “going around finding people to block”. If multitudes of people are blocking you that you have to reciprocate; might be worth having a think about why that is. Your right to express yourself or an opinion doesn’t equate everyone being compelled to listen to it. Nor is it censorship if someone, for whatever reason hard to imagine, decided they don’t ever want to hear from you again.

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    • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Feel free to use a Lemmy or Mbin instance if you don’t like Piefed :)

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    • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Are we starting to see Noster spam bots now?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Nope. My comment that disappeared twice was about how we need a human-tagging web of trust system to deal with bot spam. Which I assume nostr will implement before piefed, if anyone ever implements it. I'd copy and paste the more detailed explanation if it didn't disappear both times I tried to post it

    Replying to this because it's a comment on my own post that seems worth replying to

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