Oh of course you can just turn it off. Never realized before.
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TLDR - try slowing down “bad” ram
RAM is tricky these days. When you buy “fast” ram - in my case 6200 dominator sticks - what you really are buying is ram that the manufacturer says can be overclocked to 6200 speeds. But this is shady at best. It is entirely possible for that ram to run fine in your rig, and fail miserably in mine - showing itself as errors in memtest. This can be a result of the motherboard or say your cpu - and nothing is broken. Not the chip, not the mobo, not the ram - they just don’t work together at those speeds. Two sticks can work just fine, and then fail when you add two more (for a total of four). I’ve even had sticks that were on the edge, works for a year, and then started giving me trouble.
Most people just RMA those sticks - which I support - if it’s marketed to run at those speeds, then they should run at those speeds everywhere. But if you have “bad” memory laying around that was out of warranty, and given today’s prices - it might be worth pulling them out and trying to run them a little slower. It’s not like you have to take them all the way down to 3200 and turn off the overlock. For example, on many amd rigs, 6000 is the sweet spot. My “bad” stick of 6200 immediately fails a memtest at 6200 (even running that single dimm), but infinitely passes at 6000 (even with 4 sticks plugged in). I can’t even tell the difference between 6200 and 6000.
So ya - try slowing those bad sticks down manually. It might only be a little bit of a performance hit, but at today’s prices, could save you $1000
Also, check your warranty. I just found some bad ram I bought years ago and thought I was in trouble. Turns out g.skill has a lifetime warranty
Really common, actually. RAM doesn't really wear out, so if you do get hit with some faulty DIMMS, look into RMAs.
I had some bad g.skill DDR4 last year. I assumed it was out of warranty. Thanks for the tip!
I'm thinking my G.Skill 64GB set I bought in 2025 is crashing my PC. Gonna run a MemTest86+ overnight to check. Rated for 1.45V and up to DDR4-3200 with the XMP profile- PC crashes under load just minutes into a fresh reboot.
This said, an equivalent 64GB kit of their DDR4 CL19 (F4-2666C19D-64GVK) is retailing at the store I bought my original CL14 Ripjaws for €753. I bought the CL14 faster 64GB kit (F4-3200C14D-64GVK (EOL)) for €177.45 So SHIT I don't know how G.Skill is going to handle my situation, if MemTest86+ fails out at the 3200MHz stress test (on their official site, they declare that my possibly defective F4-3200C14D-64GVK (EOL) can reach 3200MHz with a small bump up of voltage to 1.45V, up from stock 1.2V).
How did it play out for you, with their Limited Lifetime Warranty? I'm in the EU.
I'm in the States but they were great about it. Issued an RMA and sent me new RAM. Total turnaround from me shipping bad ram to receiving new was only about a week. I haven't tested the new RAM yet but assume it will be fine. I couldn't ask for a much better process to be honest
Thanks so much for the swift reply! Reassuring. I'll be devastated that I'm going from CL14 3200Mhz to CL19 2666Mhz if they want to "upgrade" me. I did a lotta research when piecing my build, and the AMD 5950X has an Infinity Fabric of 1:1 at CL14 3200Mhz. I wanted the absolute best baseline, GPU-excepted. Sowing down ain't for this build.
What state if you don't mind me asking? I lived in FL, TX, MD, and PA before jumping The Atlantic Ocean a few years ago.
I'm over on the other side of the states in the PNW. Also running a 5950x! We're computer twinsies
I did a huge jump from an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T CPU (6-core AM3 socket) kept in an old gen1 Thermaltake Armor case (think plastic transparent window), my 2012 build. This is my 3rd build ever, and the Thermaltake Armor had to go! I love this 5950x, it's a beast, and I hope to get 10+ years outta this rig. You?
Couldn't wait to test under MemTest86+... well, looks like they're fucked:
My MemTest86+ results G.Skill Ripjaws 64GB
Edit: was trying 3600MHz at 1.35V, which was wrong for both values. Need it at 3200MHz at 1.45V and MemTest86+ is happy now. CAS 14-18-18-38
Imho not worth the risk. Nothing except ECC is protecting system from memory corruption. And consequences of flipped bit can be huge. Unless it is in a system you do not care about, just do not use it.
Very cool to be able to do that even though I'm not sure it's worth it to run a RAM module that has a known defect.
If the fault spreads there will be corruption again.
There is one part in the post mentioning how to "pad holes" in failing areas. Maybe I should expand it with some details around aligning reserved address space.
Otherwise, corruption of the RAM itself does not usually spread like mold in bread or wear out and fail in similar ways to flash memory.
By spreading I meant thar if there is an underlying manufacturing defect it would be really difficult to predict where and when it would happen on memory. And if there is already a fault detected more might come later.
But I'm glad you documented how to do these types of workaround. It might be helpful with memory prices skyrocketing...
I tried this for a bit last year, and I never got it to work. I'm sure it was user error, but I'm super glad I got a new kit before shit blew up.
Might have to track down the bad kit I had and give this another try for giggles.
First rule in computer building is to always buy twice as much RAM as you actually need so you can just remove the bad stick when this happens
Second rule of computer building is just keep the receipt until after it passes 40 minutes of memtest. Third rule is to ignore rule one, nobody does that.
I always heard the first rule as "stay grounded". Having 1TB of RAM on stock just in case sounds not grounded.
A spare kit or two should be enough for most folks. With one or two spares of everything else so you can test suspicious parts separate from prod.
A bit of redundancy and foresight is good but no need to be excessive about it.
Needing 1TB of RAM is far outside the standard case.
Well he technically only need 512 gigs but had to double it because some dude on the internet said so.
OK, so let's cut it down and say we have 4 PCs for someone with a family and home server, with 4 DIMMs each.
You are saying the first rule of PC building says that this house should have at least 16 unused DIMMs on the shelf. I'd say 2-4 is reasonable if they are all compatible.
"Buy two extra of everything" is a good rule and scales for the individual. "Buy double of everything" is not.
This is amazing!! I had no idea this was possible!
One point of feedback: not having worked with memmap before, it is not immediately obvious to me which hex means what (I am guessing RANGE@START? ). Would be nice to have a link to an explanation there.
I am definitely sharing this, thank you for writing the blog!
Thank you, I'm glad you like!
not having worked with memmap before, it is not immediately obvious to me which hex means what (I am guessing RANGE@START? ). Would be nice to have a link to an explanation there.
I just have the link to the kernel docs because I think they do a better job explaining it than I would 😁
But yeah, basically. Except for this use-case you want RANGE$START not @. And you can use human sizes like 128M$RANGE.
Well done. I recently revived the BadRAM kernel patch in order to do something similar; memtest86+ supports that functionality too, using , , , .
I'm curious: What's motivating you to do that when the memmap param can do the same without patching?
BadRAM specifiers can apply to stripes of memory corresponding to certain physical hardware failures. The memmap hack only allows for contiguous allocations. BadRAM's intended for repurposing consumer-grade RAM that might normally be thrown out, not for reconfiguring motherboards that have strange layouts.
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