That list of nations is very short.
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What about Gaza?
Ah, Yugoslavia. How dare anyone disturb that genocide.
Why doesn't NATO disturb the current genocide in Gaza?
NATO didn’t stop a genocide; it aided one. And Milošević has posthumously been found not to have committed genocide.
Of all the things, you decided to defend that scumbag. He and his cronies were one of the primary agitators that caused the war. Even if he himself didn't order a genocide, he actively militarily supported the Bosnian Serbs that caused one. And say what you want but the bombing did stop the active ethnic cleansing happening in Kosovo.
Bombs were falling on civilian targets nowhere near Kosovo. Various bridges, schools, hospitals, a chemical plant in Pančevo that almost destroyed the entire city, the Chinese embassy, a bomb fragment fell literally in my family's garden. Hundreds of civilians died, my grandma almost impaled on a table from a bomb shockwave and the glass shattered onto the cradle I was in (I was 1 year old at the time), but luckily my mom placed protection around me just in case. This was on the far north of Serbia.
To be clear, OP is a tankie who shouldn't be given any attention or a platform (I checkes their post history), but the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999 was a campaign that caused untold suffering to countless civilians (be it in injuries, deaths, or just going through every day not knowing whether you and your loved ones will be alive tomorrow) that had absolutely nothing to do with Kosovo, something that left scars in society that are still felt. It was not simply "disturbing a genocide". Not to mention that it was an attack launched without the approval of the UN.
Gotta love 2025. Is this an alt-right post or an alt-left post? No one can tell. Horseshoe theory, etc etc.
Anyone against NATO is against Western imperialism and would be considered a "leftist" by Western standards (just humane and ethical for the rest of the world). I don't see what can be misunderstood here.
Plenty of far-right people would be leftist then. Interesting
Yeah, true. I have observed that too in the last few years. If you see someone saying we should not support Ukraine there is a 50/50 chance they are far-left or far-right. Pretty impossible to tell in most cases.
With all that is happening in the world, someone decides to spend time to make a meme about NATO being a bad guy?
Well yeah, considering they are the bad guy, NATO is nothing but an organization for the furtherance of US empire led expansionism
Given that NATO is actively supporting the worst thing going on the world (as usual), yes?
I have never met anyone who supports NATO
So you have never met Eastern Europeans?
I actually did, but people don't normally have conversations about why NATO is a good/bad idea on first encounter 😆
I support NATO, in the sense that if NATO dissolved Europe would get eaten like a three-course meal by Russia. Ukraine shows that all too clearly. it has many problems, though.
How many of their NATO neighbors have they attacked vs their non-NATO neighbors?
They wanted to prevent them from joining because they couldn't bully them if they managed to join. I think that answers for both.
Now your turn to answer my original question, please.
You've quite rudely ignored my question even though I promptly answered yours.
It doesn't matter that Russia hasn't attacked NATO countries but it has and currently is attacking non-NATO countries? Interesting take
I was just saying that none of the members have got attacked by Russia and quite a few of the non-members have. Might be an indication of something. Not sure where you got genetics from tbh.
I don't know how you got from countries and military alliances into genetic traits to attack other countries. Pretty big leap imo.
I've heard some .ml people call NATO a virus but I didn't think it was literal
I was just saying that NATO countries haven't been attacked by Russia whereas non-NATO countries have, so it might be that the membership has maybe something to do with it.
I thought it was a simple point but you've since brought up genetics and good and evil into it, which honestly surprises me since I don't know where you got any of that
Why do you think Russia invaded Ukraine? Like, what is their primary goal. The impetus that drove them to approve the invasion.
Because they want to become a global power once again. That is their dream. They want to be imperialists themselves, but unfortunately for them, they have failed to do so. In the past decades they have poked their noses into Africa and the Middle East, with some success. But simultaneously they have lost their grip on regions they previously considered to be under their imperialist umbrella. It started with Georgia, which they solved with violence. Next it was Ukraine, and then Syria. And then all the unrest in Belarus. They got spooked that their imperialist dream was failing, so they went in to change the regime in Ukraine. But that didn't work out as they planned. And to top that, they also lost their foothold in Syria completely. And now, just recently, they are losing Azerbaijan too.
Secondly, what do you think the functioning role of NATO is?
Honestly, it is to protect US geopolitical interests in Europe. Making Europe depend on the US for its defense. But it is not that bad of a deal for Europe, as it keeps the peace (in "western" Europe).
They never had an Empire as the Soviet Union.
But they did. That's why Mao called them social imperialists.
As for NATO, it's to ensure western imperialism stays intact. The US is the main beneficiary, but western Europe participates because they also profit from brutal exploitation of the global south.
That just brings into question how NATO is a threat to Russia then? The only way that would be true is that either a) Russia sees them as imperialist competition, or b) the threat is that Russia can't attack its neighbors without retribution.
I acknowledge the argument NATO is encircling Russia. To what extent does Ukraine differ from other actions by Russia such as Georgia in 2008? Which sorts of actions are not resistance to NATO encircling?
This thing that keeps happening to a lot of the countries around Russia that are not in NATO? Completely wouldn't happen if no one was in NATO.
Sure.
I fully support Europe being destroyed
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