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This is the kind of imperialism that caused both world wars. Stop it now, or we all die in inevitable nuclear holocaust.
America are working on their own holocaust, they built concentration camps and a secret masked police
We did it to the Japanese, we're doing it to Mexicans. The cages have been there for over a decade with plenty of coverage but no one stopped them.
We have secret police known as undercover officers in unmarked vans. That's just on the local level of militarized police.
We have the SS known as ICE that was set up to arrest brown people post-9/11.
We gave up freedoms out of fear and now they use that fear to arrest anyone who questions the state.
We've been the bad guys since the Patriot act. When people protested it and got beaten by police it was a meme in 2004. "Don't trade me bro!"
We're fucked. We only have ourselves to care for. Be kind to your friends and family, don't listen to a god damn cop.
Don't tell us, tell the oligarchs
They're too busy being more obscenely wealthy than ever before. You're gonna have to kill a few of them for this to stop.
They've already built survival bunkers. The nuclear Holocaust isn't a worry for them. It's part of their plan
Here's the problem. War has always been the go-to solution when the USA had major troubles. At this point, I'm convinced World War III is inevitable. Simply because it's the only way for the USA to try and fix its economy. Otherwise it's recession or worse once the AI bubble pops.
Won't this be a direct attack on Denmark/Europe?
Also an attack against a NATO founding member, by another NATO founding member, making it the most confusing triggering of article 5 requiring the US to come to the aid of Denmark against itself.
I hope the good states ally with NATO to take down Florida, and allow Canada to give Trump's Ballsroom the British treatment: Gone up in smoke and flame.
Fuck it then, full send it. Life sucks for me so I'll happily go die in a snow pit defending a fellow EU country.
This threat alone is enough to show how much of a laughable alliance NATO is. America's veto power already showed the security theater for what it is, but this is the final coup de grâce to the image of NATO being anything more than America's lapdog.
This is Putin's wet dream.
Why do liberals continue to assert American fascists acting on behalf of international finance and the O&G industry are always and forever a cat's paw for the Evil Foreigners?
Is it really that hard to believe American plutocrats might be the primary beneficiary of an American campaign to expand America's territory?
"We do need Greenland, absolutely. We need it for defense," Trump told The Atlantic in an interview published Jan. 4, describing the island as reportedly "surrounded by Russian and Chinese ships."
That’s not what was implied in the comment your replaying to, they just stated it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy and benefit from. Not that he or any other state or non state actor are pulling the strings.
And they are correct, strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US annexing part of a member nation, not to mention the collapse of NATO.
And I’m not defending anyone here, American and its rich rulers are pieces of shit, Putin and the Russian oligarchs are pieces of shit, and even though they aren’t doing anything wrong in this instance the leaders/authorities of every major player in geopolitics are also in fact pieces of shit.
Edit: and before you start, politically I’m best described as an anarchist in the fashion of David Graeber so not a liberal by a long sight
it’s something Putin would greatly enjoy
Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?
strategically it greatly benefits his aims in Ukraine for the EU to have its attention taken by the US
The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.
Why would Putin enjoy a heavy US naval presence in the contested Artic Circle waters?
In theory, he might not like a heavy foreign naval presence, but Greenland is already NATO aligned. So he'd be trading a NATO aligned region for a US-only region in exchange for a fractured NATO. Sounds like a decent trade. Also keep in mind practically speaking they are probably equally unlikely to actually boost military presence much, and if they really wanted just that, NATO would probably mostly let them do it if USA paid for it, without USA having to take it.
The Danish are not meaningfully contributing to the Ukraine conflict. And there is no reason to believe the big EU militaries would stop feeding supplies to Ukraine if the US invaded Greenland.
This isn't about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It's about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring. A USA versus European NATO scenario would be his dream scenario. See "Foundations of Geopolitics", where it's mostly about getting Russia's opponents to fracture and ruin alliances:
Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
This is also the book that makes annexation of Ukraine the top priority, that it must be secured before the broader Russian agenda can be executed. It also says they need to make the UK isolated from the broader EU. They know that above all else alliances must be broken for them to stand a chance to seize power.
This isn’t about just Denmark, which materially would barely be impacted right now since Greenland is doing practically nothing. It’s about the notion of one NATO member invading another, and the absolute clusterfuck that would bring.
A lot of the Trump plan for Greenland's annexation revolves around love-bombing the existing inhabitants and effectively buying the island out. Incidentally, not unlike the Chinese plan for Taiwan or the original Russian plan for Crimea. This follows domestic efforts on the island for full independence that Danish intelligence believes has been exacerbated by American media and intelligence interference.
Obviously, ended up backfiring. But you don't need a NATO invasion so much as a Color Revolution, which Americans have (historically) been pretty good at setting up.
However you slice it, Russia doesn't benefit from this in any material sense. And constantly holding the Russians up as a boogeyman when the crooks leading this scheme are squarely rooted inside the White House, not the Kremlin, is as obtuse as it is xenophobic. "Everything I don't like is The Bad Foreigners" is the mentality that produced Trumpism to begin with. Liberals leaning into it only guarantee more Trumps into our future.
lol done here you’re not worth any more effort, with you being daft as a brush and all that.
Can't wait to see France and Germany justify that one.
They'll probably just bend over at this point to be honest
Don't have another choice, with our european army against the biggest army in the world from our own ally... Smh
An EU embargo of the US (including banning "services" like tech) would likely crash the US economy (probably the EU economy too). I think the EU will just allow the US to do whatever it wants though, with the wealthy just bribing all the important politicians and ramping up propaganda to promote far-right ideology.
At this point, we need to use force to stop Trump
At this point ? What was the threshold for you ?
At this point it's necessary. It was necessary before, but now it's necessary too
Like some Establishment Democrats are secretly bootlicking Trump, and plus he claimed to have made antifascism a "crime" which violates the First Amendment (which allows for the freedoms of speech, of the press, of religion, of expression, to assemble peacefully and to redress grievances to the government and such). Seriously!
bootlicking the same donors of the gop , yes. just the other day SLOTKIN was saying "we dont have healthcare for the constiuents or what not"(paraphrase) but she is a AIPAC shill
Its risky, but ...OK. I'll tell Schumer to release the next memo. VERY strong language in this one. There will also be a walk out and a minute of silence, in both the Senate and the House (probably).
Maybe we could go to the extreme and get a UN resolution to condemn the US aggression?
Turn his own supporters against him. The younger ones aren't stupid.
Talk to any you know and post anti-trump stuff on websites like Gab where there are a lot of pro and anti trump users and very little algorithmic influence. Portray him as a war monger and an extension of bush/cheney. I've yet to see any memes make the comparison.
Many of us have been trying to get people to organize online to do that in real time communities on say Matrix and Stoat to inform, collaborate, strengthen each other, etc but people need to stop scrolling, and do.
The whole country as a matter of fact.
How do we get through to people who want to be entertained?
Plenty of us already are doing but we need way more
I never thought I'd be on the side opposing the US in WWIII, but hey ho, here we go.
(And this might even mean I'm on the side opposite my own government depending on how things progress here in the meantime.)
I don't quite understand how there are people that ever thought the U.S. was good. How could anyone look at their zealotous imperial superiority masturbation and not just be struck with revulsion is beyond me. It's like the west collectively drank their kool aid and is only now slowly, and tentatively starting to wake up to how fucking insane that country is.
I'm 100% certain that they could invade and occupy Greenland and the rest of Europe would still be like "yeah but like... they're the good guys?"
Interestingly the US is the least kool aid drinking of Western nations when it comes to managing 'great power' realpolitik. Its unabashedly imperialistic with carefully constructed domestic propaganda. It effectively convinces its subjects of its (false) moral legitimacy, generally speaking.
Europe is the most kool aid drunk at the moment. Stagnation, impending demographic collapse and vastly overestimating their standing on the global stage. Trumps crass handling of relations with Europe has been a wake up call there to say the least. Alexander Stubb's (president of Finland) speech at the G20 was hopefully heard by and reflected on by EU leaders. Most of the world perceives Europe as having lost its strategic autonomy to the US, mainly though complacency.
It was mostly other imperialist countries and their vassal states, why wouldn't they accept another of their own?
I'm talking more on an individual basis. Countries I get.
The US already has access to Greenland's minerals. Greenland is in NATO. The fat, orange murderer/felon/rapist is greedy beyond measure.
Lol it's not about getting the US access, it's about getting his personal business ties access at the expense of the American taxpayer/lives of American soldiers. He doesn't care about wealth for the country, he cares about wealth for himself.
It's even dumber then that. It's because Greenland looks big on the map.
I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to rename it to Trumpland
The House already has a bill introduced and ready to rename it, for when they "purchase or otherwise acquire Greenland": https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1161
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