I personally love proton pass’s frontend app, but i don’t wanna host my data on proton’s servers(personal reasons). Is there any other password managers that support iOS, android, and browser extension, that is as good. (I tried bitwarden wasn’t good cuz on mobile I had to reenter master pass over and over. I tried keypassxc, but the frontend sucks and dealing with syncing between devices is a pain in the ass.) I appreciate everyone’s help!

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[–] 19 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

Bitwarden, is still the way to go. I say this as a proton customer. I've learned to work around it's small annoyances

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    On mobile, I had to reenter the master password ever time I filled in a password. With a really safe, long, password, it was torture.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    For me, I'm extra paranoid.. Someone can forcefully unlock with biometric

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    there's the lockdown or similar feature at the phone level in Android and iOS

    if you're in a situation where you don't want someone to access Bitwarden, then you probably also want to stop them from using your browser with all the cookies and logins it currently has

    so temporarily block all biometric access on your phone in such cases, and merrily enjoy biometric access when you're physically safe again

    on Android, it's Power + Volume-Up, then Lockdown

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago

    I tried bitwarden wasn’t good cuz on mobile I had to reenter master pass over and over

    Setup fingerprint unlock and enable it in Bitwarden.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Use bitwarden, go to Settings -> account security -> unlock with pin and turn it on. If it’s already on, toggle it off then on. You will be prompted to set your pin. Dont forget your master password.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I wont :) I should give bitwarden another try.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Whats wrong with keepass. I'v been syncing with syncthing for years now. I still don't know why frontend matters is not like you will use it every 10 minutes

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know if Syncthing is available on iOS but this works great to sync Keepass's database between Linux and Android.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    What's wrong with having your data on proton's servers? I thought the app and browser extensions are verifiably only sending encrypted packets? Or do they only encrypt your password and send metadata as is?

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  • [–] [S] -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I wanna use a different proton service, but using 2 services from proton is a bad idea.

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    Use one service for one thing, so that when it gets disabled, only that one thing is affected.

    https://ignorethecode.net/blog/2025/06/11/stop_uploading_your_data_to_google/

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    That's fine as a general guideline, but does not need to be a steadfast rule. You can use your own judgement. I like ProtonPass's SimpleLogin feature so I use that for email aliases. Its so nice and convenient.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    If your main concern is usability, 1password works pretty well. The downsides are it's paid, closed source, and I think they removed the option to use a local vault, so it might have to be cloud.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I’ll check it out. If it’s cheap I might be willing to try it. Its not like proton is FOSS.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Only the frontend. Not the backend, so you can’t self host without modifying both browser extension and mobile app, along with rewriting a server from scratch.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Okay fair enough, but that is at least slightly different than saying Proton isn’t FOSS, but I understand.

    They have a pretty good FOSS standing and audits for software they distribute. While that doesn’t make it easy to host privately, it does make it trivial to see how data is shipped to their servers.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    KeePassXC. I think you can install client on every OS.

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    [–] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Ive found pencil/pen and paper and memorization work (ive been got by a bad download they cant scrape the paper) its old school but its pretty good not all eggs in one basket kind of thing

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    All good until your house burns down/floods or something.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Dizzyam. nice call. i didnt think of that. Those could be a problem but the pass words a quick grab away so if im alive they ok(flood would be worst clothes get wet. Fire im out the window) ill put them in zip locks.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    If they are serious passwords, look at putting them in a fireproof bag.

    Otherwise, what happens if something happens when you are out?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Nice Thank you this is good thinking

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Doesn't have to be your main copy (those bags are annoying to use). But put a copy in there at least (and keep it up to date with the important ones)

    DON'T put the paper in a plastic organiser etc, plastic melts/burns at lower temperature so can ruin them even if the bag would have otherwise been able to protect them.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Thank you. this has brought me to a realization if i don't use it enough to memorize its password ill just delete the account(i mean "delete" by let a potential flood or fire have its way. i know my emails passwords by heart so the others can be recovered if needed). Alot of stuff is nice but most isnt necessary to have the necessary i use enough to memorize its password.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    If it can help you, I'm in the process of choosing a password manager for my small company and asked this (awesome) community for help.

    I made a table with the results so far. You can find it here : https://sh.itjust.works/post/52850975

    I'm still lost, but I hope it can help you...

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I use ExpressVPN and their PW manager. I love it. It also has 2fa keys. Super dynamic and has worked on a few different phones I've had as well as browsers (Vivaldi, brave, etc)

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