Swapping SIM cards used to be easy, and then came eSIM.

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[–] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It depends on what you change more often.

If you change your provider more often, than eSIMs are fine. You don't have to wait for anything in the mail, or go to a store.

If you (me) keep your provider for a couple decades, a physical SIM card can be moved to any new phone at any time, without even needing to talk to your provider. Never mind asking them to approve your new niche little phone they've never heard of, and don't know will work (it will)

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    I used an eSIM a few years ago, but it always felt iffy and reminded me too much of Verizon's old CDMA networks where the phones had no SIMs and were permanently tied to the carrier no matter what. Then my phone (Pixel 7 Pro) decided to take a shit, leaving me with no phone number for several days while I waited for the replacement SIM (because the backup device I had was not compatible with eSIM).

    eSIMs have their place for secondary lines, like a different carrier for certain low-service situations that pop up here and there in my area, but otherwise I now only run a physical SIM for my main line.

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    I have 5 esims and swap betwen them offten, click and done. SIMs are a pita.

    Seems to be migration to phones every other week for reviews is an issie but not one most people are going to have ? I've had the same phone for years now

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    I think the nightmare starts when your phone stops working completely, I experienced this without eSim and it was already complicated for a switch, I guess eSim adds some problems, but overall I think it still makes things easier, especially when you travel and the roaming fees are too expensive

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  • [+] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I've been using Google Fi for the last few Pixel phones I've been on. Each time I've switched, during setup I just get asked if I'd like to activate the phone (with a warning that my old one will be deactivated) and I click yes. It's then active before I can even complete the phone's OOBE setup.

    Android also does apparently have a "copy to another device" function mentioned here, but they hint to what you said regarding carrier limitations applying. Though Apple's quick eSIM transfer has a similar note as well.

    Definitely seems like a "When it all lines up, it can be convenient, but when it doesn't you're fucked" situation.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    What are your use cases for all those SIMs?

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    Three uses I could see:

    • Personal
    • Work (if no work phone)
    • Travel (providers like Saily allow you to take a temporary sim for a country you're visiting, basically what used to be the people selling sims at the airport. eSIM makes it less shady and basically one-click) [maybe multiple of these if they travel often because different providers are better in certain regions]
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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Swapping sims is easier now. You scan a QR code, wait 30 minutes, restart phone and you're good to go. No need to wait for a sim card to be mailed to you. No need to purchase a sim card in the local store.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    But if I am trying to debug some mobile connection related thing I can't be waiting 30 minutes to swap it back and forth every time. Then I won't be able to solve the problem in a timely fashion.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    That isn’t the normal use of a smartphone. For the average person who rarely changes network and doesn’t debug connectivity issues eSIM is the better option.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Well, yes, under normal circumstances things work properly and do not need to be debugged. But generally eventually any system encounters abnormal circumstances, and one does not want the correct answer to be "give up on that system forever and go home".

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    I moved to eSIM a few years ago and I had to switch back to physical.

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