How was it again? "The most moral army in the world"?

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[–] 28 points 1 year ago

It is the most moral. They abide by their morals perfectly.

spoilerThe morals are genocide

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    I'm sure Netanyahu will be calling the IDF anti-semitic in a few hours.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    Welp, hope no one is surprised...

    When you're waging a genocide, this is exactly the kind of thing you do. 🤷‍♂️ 🤡 🖕

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    My word! Has the IDF investigated themselves yet? They'll get to the bottom of this!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Our world is very sick.

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    [–] [S] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Important is that these "opening" times during which the IDF doesn't shoot are done like this

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Still maddening we can't post dropsite news links directly here

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This is why I had such a casual attitude about 7 young Israeli soldiers killed by an IED the other day. Normally, I'd be sad at the loss of seven young lives, all around my son's age, but these people are enthusiastic murderers of innocent civilians, including women and children. I can't feel badly about them being taken out of the murder game.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    It's hard to feel bad when an invading army doing a genocide gets hurt.

    like yhea, a human has died, maybe they were anti war and were there from peer pressure, maybe they would have left and become a massive anti war advocate... but a bigger maybe, maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place doing every was crime known to man and inventing a few new ones.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Gentle reminder that a term of military service is compulsory in Israel.

    In essence, wicked old bastards are conscripting kids, filling their heads with xenophobia, and sending those kids to die.

    Kids getting blown to pieces is a net-negative for mankind.

    If they will not change, the most good these "leaders" can amount to in their brief time on this planet before they go straight to Hell, is to become a feast for the buzzards, preferably sooner rather than later.

    (Edit: wording)

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago

    This is literally that scene from Schindler's List where the Commandant sits on the balcony and snipes any prisoner below who isn't laboring fast enough. And for years they were saying this was unrealistic and such crass cruelty could not have happened!

    https://piped.video/watch?v=N0DqnUk90lo

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Non-paywalled version: https://archive.is/37RtH

    This article has some fuckin wild quotes that each by their own should be enough to justify ceasing all trade and cooperation with Israel. I dont think Israel will ever be able to truly understand the depth of its own depravity unless it comes under full occupation like Germany after WW2.

    IDF officers told Haaretz that the army does not allow the public in Israel or abroad to see footage of what takes place around the food distribution sites. According to them, the army is satisfied that the GHF's operations have prevented a total collapse of international legitimacy for continuing the war. They believe the IDF has managed to turn Gaza into a "backyard," especially since the war with Iran began.

    "Gaza doesn't interest anyone anymore," said a reservist who completed another round of duty in the northern Strip this week. "It's become a place with its own set of rules. The loss of human life means nothing. It's not even an 'unfortunate incident,' like they used to say."

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Getting those orders is one thing.

    Acting on them is another.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Let’s be real. They enthusiastically follow their orders. They even record themselves committing their war crimes, laughing as they perpetrate them!

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's almost like the world can't comprehend that zionism is a fascist, religious nationalist, ideological movement?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Nah i don't think it is that. I think most people who actually pay attention to whats going on a disgusted by it. Somehow, simply because of WW2 it was made that any criticism regarding Israel is automatically deemed anti-semitic even though thats not the case in 99% of times. They can skate on by, being abhorent human beings simply because a couple generations ago such terrible depraved acts were performed on a large group of peoples that happened to largely be jewish. They've beaten that horse so hard, and its been dead for decades, but one whiff of being called an anti-semite had people worried. Because of the nazis. Now, not only has crying wolf made it so these depraved humans from israel been given carte blanche, for fear of being given the anti-semite label, but nazi'ism and fascism has come back due to the normalising of calling people nazis, either seriously or as a joke.

    Really the only way to ensure this shit doesn't happen is to ban all religions that aren't non-theistic in nature. All materialistic, theistic, my god is better than your god, my religion is better than yours die you piece of horse scrotom trash, all that kind of shit needs to be wiped from the human conciousness. If you can tell me, with a straight face, that none of the bullshit caused anywhere in the world is based on theistic religion, I have a rock to sell you that keeps tigers (and bears) out of your neighbourhood.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Zionism is the same kind of Fascism as Nazism - ethno-Fascism - which is based on ethnicity rather than nationality, thus rabidly racist and hence far, far, more depraved than traditional Fascism.

    Just compare the actions of Russia in Ukraine and those of Israel in Gaza to see the difference between traditional Fascism and ethno-Fascism: Russians don't think Ukranians are sub-humans, whilst Israeli definitelly think Palestinians are (specifically "human animals" and even "vermin"), hence the scale of the crimes being commited by Israelis is many times larger and more extreme than that of those being commited by Russians - when for a whole military even the toddlers of a different ethnicity are "vermin" there are no boundaries for them when it comes to murdering people from that ethnicity.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    i remember how an IDF was once telling me about how Israel is there most moral army in the world because any soldiers has the duty to ignore unethical orders.... Like basically any soldier in the world, only if they actually did that.

    but do they?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    These people need to be Nuremberged in the worst way.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So they’ve turned the world’s largest concentration camp into the world’s largest torture chamber.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I'm tired of people saying the victims of the holocaust did this.

    not only a tiny minority of the country survived the holocaust, but those people are marginalised in Israel.

    sorry, this was meant for another comment

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I mean, it’s always been clear that the Holocaust was a teachable moment. However I never expected the victims to take home precisely these lessons

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I'm tired of people saying the victims of the holocaust did this.

    not only a tiny minority of the country survived the holocaust, but those people are marginalised in Israel.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Indeed.

    Israel was created by amongst others Jewish terrorist groups, who at one point even tried to ally with the Nazis.

    They're the very opposite of Holocaust Survivors (which is probably why in present day Israel, Holocaust survivors are stigmatized and seen as "weak").

    One needs to believe that there's some kind of Jewish Hive-mind (one of the anti-semitic notions imaginable) to think that Israeli Zionists, who share nothing other than etnicity with the survivors of the Holocaust, would have felt the trauma that Holocaust survivors felt.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Wanted to joke about the Jewish hivemind being about bagels.

    but then I realized how bagels are almost an American hew thing, and every Jewish community worldwide is so different and diverse, and the largest entity erasing that Jewish diversity is the state of Israel. paving all Jewish heritage with stolen hummus

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Sure, on a personal level, that’s true. But the country identifies its roots and legitimacy as based in and on the holocaust. It’s what its government never gets tired of repeating. Worse: ‘never again’ is actively used as the excuse for genocide.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    which is coopted propaganda.

    Zionism predates the holocaust. although one of the motivations for Zionism were other pogroms.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sure. But the state of Israel is a UN-creation right after WW2, with the holocaust as the explicit motivator

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Zionism started way before

    that's like saying a movie is created when the producer makes a speech at the premier.

    Also, that vote also created the state of Palestine. so I remind everyone that says Israel has a UN mandate that Palestine has the exact same one.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    This is what our money goes to, lovely isn't it?

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  • And to think, the country with the biggest military budget on Earth (USA, almost 1 TRILLION annually) actively supports this

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    I wish I could say I was surprised.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) aid centers began operating in the Strip at the end of May. The circumstances of the foundation's establishment and its funding are murky: it is known to have been set up by Israel in coordination with U.S. evangelicals and private security contractors. Its current CEO is an evangelical leader close to U.S. President Donald Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    The GHF operates four food distribution sites – three in southern Gaza and one in the center – known in the IDF as "rapid distribution centers" (Mahpazim). They are staffed by American and Palestinian workers and secured by the IDF from a distance of several hundred meters. 

    Thousands, and at times tens of thousands, of Gazans arrive daily to collect food from these sites. 

    Contrary to the foundation's initial promises, distribution is chaotic, with crowds rushing the piles of boxes. Since the rapid distribution centers opened, Haaretz has counted 19 shooting incidents near them. While the shooters' identities are not always clear, the IDF does not permit armed individuals in these humanitarian zones without its knowledge. 

    The distribution centers typically open for just one hour each morning. According to officers and soldiers who served in their areas, the IDF fires at people who arrive before opening hours to prevent them from approaching, or again after the centers close, to disperse them. Since some of the shooting incidents occurred at night – ahead of the opening – it's possible that some civilians couldn't see the boundaries of the designated area. 

    "It's a killing field," one soldier said. "Where I was stationed, between one and five people were killed every day. They're treated like a hostile force – no crowd-control measures, no tear gas – just live fire with everything imaginable: heavy machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars. Then, once the center opens, the shooting stops, and they know they can approach. Our form of communication is gunfire." 

    The soldier added, "We open fire early in the morning if someone tries to get in line from a few hundred meters away, and sometimes we just charge at them from close range. But there's no danger to the forces." According to him, "I'm not aware of a single instance of return fire. There's no enemy, no weapons." He also said the activity in his area of service is referred to as Operation Salted Fish – the name of the Israeli version of the children's game "Red light, green light".

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The distribution centers typically open for just one hour each morning.

    A literal trap for shooting victims. There is literally no way for the crowds to avoid being too early or too late or doing anything that can be used as an excuse to shoot them because the whole setup is designed to cause chaos.

    There is no way to explain this as anything other than intentional.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago

    Not disagreeing, but if I had thousands of starving people and a truck full of food - I think we could see it's going to be a scrum and chaos just all by itself, without war crimers war criming in the middle of it. They deliberately destroyed all the mechanisms that were in place and have no plans to replace them. This - nobody move until they open - is the evil war crime version of the lunch manager yelling at everyone to wait outside until 11:30.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Fuck Israel

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    [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    It was clear that that was happening, but it's a good thing soldiers themselves are coming forward and confirming it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    They're playing red light green light. Fucking disgusting.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It's happening every day, killing starving children. Nothing being done to stop Israel. Once they're all dead they won't need to recognize the Palestinian state I guess

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    just following orders

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    You'd have to be deaf, blind and unable to read braille to not already guess this from the hundreds of instances of it occurring

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    [–] [S] 18 points 1 year ago

    Important is that these "opening" times during which the IDF doesn't shoot are done like this

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