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[–] 160 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Funny thing: judging by the styling, that text might be from the documentation for Ansible, the declarative configuration manager. Well, you can't run Ansible itself in Windows, you need a *nix vm, even if WSL — though you can control Windows machines via Ansible. Afaik the same is true for the popular alternatives Salt, Puppet and Chef.

    (Though I couldn't find the screenshotted page.)

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Can’t find it via web search 🤔 interesting it wasn’t published in that same form, feel it’s rare to come up empty on something like this

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  • [–] 149 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The cherry on top is the warning about the PowerShell team cooking up their own version of a download command with an incompatible syntax, but still calling it curl.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    They don't do that anymore in new versions, but you still need to actually use the new version to get that behaviour. It's a bit of a pain since the "fixed" version is in the MS store, the broken one is a base system component.

    It also hits the people who use the terminal the least, anybody who uses it regularly will just install the new shell at the same time they install the new terminal and always get the new clean behaviour.

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  • [–] 59 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Don't worry, Microsoft is going to let ai rewrite 1 million LOC from C to Rust per month per programmer and this will dramatically increase the quality https://www.thurrott.com/dev/330980/microsoft-to-replace-all-c-c-code-with-rust-by-2030

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  • [–] 108 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Windows just isn't ready for the desktop.

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Year of the windows desktop is probably not next year; it's not ready for general use yet, it's too broken.

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  • [–] 65 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    sent this to a friend, his response:

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago* (9 children)

    Glad he went with Terry Davis and not Richard Stallman.

    Note: This is posted in the same tongue in cheek manner as your image and not meant to conflate Bill Gates and Richard Stallman.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah lol. Unlike Gates tho, Stallmann actually felt the consequences of his words, and was removed from the FSF. Later he said he had been educated and apologized for his previous statements, he's back at FSF now.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Bruh, hes pro child rape.

    He was friends with epstein.

    You can't just apologize and undo things like that.

    It is a travesty he continues to be a part of that organization considering the no code/subtraction he contributes,

    I bet there are a lot of donations they could be getting but aren't purely because of this, and the fact that he clearly had some sort of leverage on them to be able to be reinstated.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Hm maybe I'm misinformed. Last time I read about this, I recall he was friends with somebody who was implicated with Epstein, not Epstein himself. And I recall reading that he later backpedaled on his statements before being reinstated.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    That's why you should use Alpine /s

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Is that account the actual official Alpine Linux account or is it just someone who named themself that?

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Remember when WSL was an actual compatibility layer instead of a VM? Imagine if they had just gone further down that road instead of whatever the fuck this shit is.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Afaik original WSL suffered from the fact that filesystem syscalls went through Windows' APIs, which allow user-level third-party programs to plug in at many points — like path resolution, block access, etc. Which also involves switching the context between the kernel and userspace a bunch of times. File access patterns in Linux apps worked poorly with this. Plus Linux apps expect the filesystem to cache metadata, which Windows doesn't seem to do.

    Much of this is mitigated when file access on the Windows side is done by chucking blocks into and out of a virtual disk, and when a kernel with the whole caching thing is introduced.

    I'm guessing such mismatch problems would crop up in other places too.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    It also lacked a lot of system calls, like ability to loop mount.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Loop mounting is implemented as a separate syscall? But why? I'd expect it to be a parametric thing like mount("loop", ...)
    ლ(•ᯅ• )ლ

    Or do you just mean the whole feature was absent? I'm less surprised by that than the fact that loop mounting might be a separate syscall. Considering stuff like the fact that in NTFS, symlinks to files and to directories are two different things, and the program creating a symlink must distinguish which target it needs.

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  • [–] 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

    Winget is such a half-assed effort. Updating the terminal? Terminal shuts down and you need to open it and run the update again. Updating something else? Maybe it'll change the binary location and not update the path, just for fun (happened twice with LLVM stuff for me). This update failed for some reason? Try to run update again only to be told no updates are available.

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    You want even more shame here? They made Winget by basically copy/pasting a solo dev effort called Appget back in 2019 after stringing the dev along about a possible Microsoft job.

    Then, during the annoucement of winget while they lauded other windows package managers, they barely mentiom his app they copied nearly 1 for 1.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    Textbook Microsoft move. Thanks for the link, that was an interesting, if disgusting, read. I loved in particular that they were difficult about reimbursing his travel. You'd think a multi billion dollar company would be able to pay for however much a plane ticket and possibly a hotel stay was...

    That's not the first time I hear something like that from a big company. I saw a talk by Matt Godbolt (compiler explorer) mentioning that NVidia took more than a year to pay him some contribution they said they would for the CUDA support. Can't remember the figure, but it was ridiculously low.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Winget is such a half-assed effort

    And most of the time it just downloads the msi package or the installer exe and runs that, and you have to click through that. It doesn't actually keep track of what gets installed.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Scoop is such an excellent package manager for Windows in my experience. It makes the best of what it's given and it's usually as seamless as using Linux.

    All Microsoft developer tools (and that is the target user for Winget) have felt so janky to me. Also, their documentation sucks most of the time.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I use Chocolatey, but I've looked at Scoop before. Any big differences between the two? I just don't want to relearn commands and edit scripts (for multiple machines, and scheduled tasks) if I get the same outcome...

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago

    Look at how they massacred our boy curl

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Installing Scoop or Chocolatey isn't much easier either (Powershell permission system) but at least they work and arent stolen from Appget.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    I'd say Win11 is a joke but its more like a slap in the face.

    And a joke...Its still a joke...

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    i was forced to switch to Win11 and after three weeks my employer straight up apologized and allowed to switch work computer to Mint. And then much of the team also switched to Mint and it turns out your computer can still feel like the machine from the future when its OS is not a bloated spying mountain of crap

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    my employer straight up apologized and allowed to switch work computer to Mint

    Are you hiring? I wish my employer was that kind

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    What!? You mean you don't see the advantage of the taskbar being locked in one spot and the volume mixer being many clicks away?

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Reminder that the Windows devs copied AppGet, even spoke with the dev of it, but refused to hire them. Reminder that just because something is legal with regards to FLOSS tools, it doesn't mean it is ethical. It's stories like this that I think people need to think long and hard about when making FLOSS stuff and whether you want to use a permissive license. A copy left license wouldn't have necessarily prevented this, but this is the competition. They don't play nice.

    https://keivan.io/the-day-appget-died/

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    i used to prefer MIT and Apache licensing. now i feel very strongly that copyleft is the way. too many rugpulls all at once in the last 2 years.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Trying to install remote desktop multiuser in server manager, for win2025 the installer fails. I find out that a security update broke it over a year ago. Uninstalled all updates then rebooted and it works. Not to mention the constant wack a mole admins do to disable unwanted marketing additions to the taskbar and start menu via group policy and registry hacks. Clearly what windows needs next is an AI powered going dark mode to randomly break features it thinks you don't need. Because even that would be less confusing than what we have now.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    I would be interested to know when that version was current because that's extremely out of date.

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    It is hilarious to see linux-scary-because-terminal heads and then this

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I'm beginning to think that Microsoft is trying to pull a New Coke with Win11 except that's probably giving them too much credit.

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  • [+] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)