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[–] 31 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Rich vs Poor. This is the only separation. They don't care about color, sexuality, religion, etc.

All of that is just a distraction they use to hoard more wealth and power, and push the bottom 99% deep into slavery.

Is there in plain view, as long as you have enough billions you can be a trans Muslim and they won't care.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Simple minded idiots hate trans people simply because they are different to them. Trans people existing and having rights and such does not affect their personal lives.

    So they know these days it's harder to be so open about that. Now they have to come up with ridiculous reasons about they have a right to hate gay or trans people. Now there's an "agenda" and it's a "choice".

    The trans conspiracy is probably the most ridiculous one yet. They think that people would so uproot their lives by transitioning (something that I imagine is incredibly difficult - especially if family is not supportive) solely so they can sneak into a woman's restroom and perv out. Who would do that? The internet is a vast ocean of all manner of depraved pornography. Why the hell would they go though all that just to perv on women in a restroom?

    Obviously there is something much more compelling behind their decision that ties directly into their identity.

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  • A lot of the people that harp on about the bathroom thing don't think about the day to day of actually living as a woman. For a lot of them most of their hate admittedly comes from sexual insecurity and being terrified of the idea that they might find themselves attracted to, and finally get a woman to agree to date them only to find out she's "secretly a man" as they'd put it and that it "makes them gay" actually.

    But like the bathroom thing? A lot of them don't believe trans women actually live as women. They can't imagine it. They can only think of it through the lens of what they would do given the "power" of being able to tell people they identify as a woman and having that identity respected. That they would go into women's bathrooms and perv on women in there then just go back to being a man.

    So obviously that's what all of these so-called "trans women" must be doing too. After all, my trusted news sources are telling me that you can always tell so that person I saw the other day must have been one of them "transgenders" (it wasn't, just idk... someone like my wife. A tall cis woman that used to be rather fat)

    That's one of the reasons it so often takes a close family member being trans for there to be even a chance they change their tune. They have to see first hand that no, it's not a fetish, it's not some ploy to perv on women in the bathroom. That it's FAR from just "Walk into gender clinic. Tell doctor am gril." and Doc says "Fantastic! Here's some titty skittles, give me just a second to get my dick chopping scissors. Let's build you a vagina!" they have to see how genuinely happy this person is just... living as their authentic self. Many of them still don't, but the few that do change their mind have to experience it directly.

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  • [+] 73 points 11 months ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Sam Altman reportedly met his husband in Thiel's hot tub. The elite can be exactly as gay as they want, it's only the rest that ever had issues

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    You must be under 30 because it was definitely not that way in the recent past.

    These gay right wing billionaire fucks are the worst beduase their party only accepts them because of the work of leftist movements.

    It's another version of "fuck you, I got mine" but this flavor is for gay rights.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I mean yes, I'm talking about modern history. Obviously 50 years ago things were different. But at present time, LGBT folks are being demonised MORE than they were 15 years ago. And the fyigm folk are not affected whatsoever.

    But I don't think leftist movements have anything to do with republicans accepting Thiel. It's his billions.

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  • [–] 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

    Uh no, this is not factual. CEOs decide between a 70ft yacht and a 100ft yacht. Get your facts straight.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    I was like, most CEO would be deciding which they wanted to eat lunch in and the other to eat dinner. People have no idea how wealthy the people in control are. Wealthy people are literally Gods compared to labor. A CEO of say a insurance company literally chooses who lives and dies for work, then goes home to one of seven homes.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Did they got em tho?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    Vote blue so that one trans girl in your state can play badminton. That'll be the only change you're welcome you ungrateful shits

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Oh yes, I remember the time we elected democrats and that stuff stopped being a problem????

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  • [+] -21 points 11 months ago* (29 children)

    TIL there are literally only 50 trans women in the entire US.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (18 children)

    50 sounds like a correct number of trans women interested in playing competitive badminton

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  • [+] -8 points 11 months ago (13 children)

    What about those interested in playing other competitive sports? Are we just going to erase them?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    what about trans men interested in playing competitive juggling? are we just going to erase them?

    what about nonbinary people who dislike cooking? have you forgotten about them completely???

    and you haven't even mentioned your opinion on waffles, do you hate them?

    ...

    the conversation was about trans women and badminton, not other things

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago (12 children)
  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    because the ban is petty and vindictive. trans women are roughly equal in performance with cis women

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Then why do they keep winning in every sport that requires strength and endurance?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Umm, they don't.

    The perception they do is ginned up hysteria.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You can't prove a negative. You need to provide a source that trans women "keep winning in every sport that requires strength and endurance." keep and every are big claims there.

    The truth is more nuanced and highly depends on the individual person and their history. Some trans women never go through a male puberty, for example. Trans women on estrogen and testosterone blockers lose a significant amount of muscle mass. Depending on the sport that can actually be a disadvantage because they're moving around typically heavier phrames with less muscle. There's also differences, typically, in things like center of gravity. Less muscle mass (for their size/frame), a heavier frame, and higher center of gravity could cause a disadvantage for an individual in sports like wrestling, as another example.

    The truth is we don't actually know very well, scientifically speaking, and it needs to be studied more. A big problem in studying it more is that there are so few trans athletes and the sample sizes are very small.

    Saying trans women are flat out better in "every sport that requires strength and endurance" is outright hyperbole bordering on being flat out wrong and does not engage with current scientific knowledge on the topic in good faith.

    Never been a huge fan of his humor personally, but the core content here is nuanced and on point. https://youtu.be/flSS1tjoxf0

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Okay, so your response to actual scientific research is a John Oliver video? You know he's a comedian, making a comedy show, right?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    What actual scientific research was I responding to? You said "Then why do they keep winning in every sport that requires strength and endurance?" There's 0 "scientific research" in that very firm claim.

    He references scientific research and demonstrates the ginned up hysteria I mentioned.

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  • [+] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)
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    You made the claim they were roughly equal in strength. Do you have any sources on that? Because the science says otherwise.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7846503 https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/02/28/bjsports-2020-103106

    • after 24 months of testosterone suppression, bone mass is generally preserved
    • no study has reported muscle loss greater than 12% with testosterone suppression even after three years of hormone therapy
    • trans women are in the top 10% of females regarding lean body mass and possess a grip 25% stronger than most females

    If these aren't unfair advantages, IDK what is.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    We can each go around finding articles that prove the point of either side. The truth is that the topic is complicated and needs more research. Picking out the few studies that prove your point and ignoring the ones that don't isn't engaging with the body of scientific knowledge in good faith. See my other comment to you too.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37437247/

    In nonathletic trans men starting testosterone therapy, within 1 year, muscle mass and strength increased and, by 3 years, physical performance (push-ups, sit-ups, run time) improved to the level of cisgender men. In nonathletic trans women, feminizing hormone therapy increased fat mass by approximately 30% and decreased muscle mass by approximately 5% after 12 months, and steadily declined beyond 3 years. While absolute lean mass remains higher in trans women, relative percentage lean mass and fat mass (and muscle strength corrected for lean mass), hemoglobin, and VO2 peak corrected for weight was no different to cisgender women. After 2 years of GAHT, no advantage was observed for physical performance measured by running time or in trans women. By 4 years, there was no advantage in sit-ups. While push-up performance declined in trans women, a statistical advantage remained relative to cisgender women.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Okay, so first of all, what is the relevance of the results of nonathletic trans women when we are talking about sports?

    Second, according to your own quote, even this study seems to conclude that a statistical advantage in strength remained for trans women WHO DON'T EVEN DO SPORTS.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    My point, this entire conversion, is the issue is complicated and needs more research. Yes some statistical differences in strength seem to remain. That doesn't always translate to an advantage in a specific sport though. As I've mentioned before, and your own post references too, bone density doesn't change. Moving around heavier bones with less muscles is a factor in determining any specific sport advantage.

    You also ignore this entire section directly after the part you mention:

    relative percentage lean mass and fat mass (and muscle strength corrected for lean mass), hemoglobin, and VO2 peak corrected for weight was no different to cisgender women. After 2 years of GAHT, no advantage was observed for physical performance measured by running time or in trans women. By 4 years, there was no advantage in sit-ups.

    Surely there's more to it than just strength right?

    Again, my entire point is the issue is hard to study and needs more research. Surely you can see the value in using non-athletic populations in studies in order to get a sample size, even though its not perfect, right?

    You are the one saying the issue is a 100% decided scientific fact. You have a greater burden of proof associated with that claim, which you have not demonstrated. Until you do I'm done with this convention.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    ... anyone looking for facts:

    • 2.1 million trans adults in the US (0.61%)
    • 730,500 are trans women (0.21%)

    ref: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/trans-people-us-data

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    For some reason I thought there'd be way more trans women than trans men, probably because trans women are brought up so much more often.

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  • You'd think so, but a lot of that has to do with trans women getting much more attention because of the idea that trans men are "poor vulnerable girls that have been brainwashed into mutilating their bodies by groomers" and trans women are "the groomers" so the former is a tragic afterthought to the latter's insidious agenda.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    yeah but like, how many of them are interested in badminton? and specifically badminton competitions

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    No stats I can find, so I'll just go with anecdotes: I know 2 people who play badminton from family, friends & extended, so that's roughly 2 / 80 people. Let's use that as a background

    730k * 2 / 80 = ~ 18200 trans women, rounding down

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