sTaTeS rIgHts *
*does not apply to Democrats or people trying to protect human rights within a state if it conflicts with right wing authoritarians' vision for how everyone else should live.
sTaTeS rIgHts *
*does not apply to Democrats or people trying to protect human rights within a state if it conflicts with right wing authoritarians' vision for how everyone else should live.
Not how this works.
It is now
And suddenly, State Republicans are fine with having the Federal government take away their rights.
Conservatives have always been fine with federal government taking away other states rights.
The civil war started because the South didn't want the federal government to force them to stop using slaves but 100% okay with the federal government forcing Northern states to return slaves back to the South.
The cons whine about things like gender fluidity, but they've always been quite morally fluid, let's say....
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this effectively toothless? Like executive orders only effect things directly under federal and more specifically executive purview meaning even a city government could pass a regulation on AI in their area and it'd have more legal weight than an executive order. Or are they abusing unrelated powers to declare that no one can regulate AI?
Like I'm pretty sure the supremacy clause doesn't apply to executive orders.
More specifically, they're just directives to federal employees. It's the equivalent of your boss telling you how to do your job.
Telecommunication is controlled by the Federal government.
Let me get this straight. AI now has more rights than we do?
Since AI is being created within private tyrannies we call "corporations", which also have more rights than we do, it's only natural.
Well no, because this is an executive order.
Meaning it’s just like if you or I said “Delaware is not allowed to make new AI laws!”
No one gives a shit, because this isn’t a law
Remember all the movies that said we would bully them? They hadn't factored in the "economy".
So are they saying AI is a national security threat? Or that living without AI is a national security threat, in which one would imagine AI should be provided free access by the federal government to every person, as it is a threat to not have access? As an executive order is designed to be used only for an issue of national security, which we must have been living in such a threat since the country was founded until now.
What about States rights?
You mean those things that Republicans always whine about when some law comes on place that is good for everyone?
Yeah those van go fuck themselves
In the trash, along with free speech absolutism and freedom of and from religion, concern about deficits, and so on...the cons have always lied about their so-called concerns and principles.
Id imagine this may get thrown out in court
He's trying to rule by decree, but most of his orders are for things he has no authority to do.
They should be printed on soft paper so at least someone could wipe their ass with them.
Ya even with our conservative court they even can’t ignore the power states have in enforcing their own laws outside of what the constitution specifically says the federal controls. I guess that assumes if any of them even care about the constitution anymore.
"Let's push something that destroys the ecology and economy! We'll call it "AI"! People everywhere will be jobless and suffering except for us!". The world, with usa as a superpower, is very badly broken. Maybe it's time to drop off the usa at the old folks home.
So the US is at the stage where whatever this orange jerkoff farts out of his decrepit dementia-riddled mind - becomes law? And aligned states will listen to this pap, non-aligned states will Ignore? Cause ruling by EOs like isn’t a thing
This is almost certainly because this very thin economy, or at least the stock market, is only barely staying afloat on the back of the AI bubble. This move could create room for them to superficially extend the bubble as long as possible and maximize their profits.
Is it me or is the Cheetos purposely driving the US into a civil war? Like, I would immediately believe it of evidence shows up that trump was paid by Putin to kill the US, but the more and more o see him doing this shit, I really believe he's purposely trying to wreck that shit hole country
Unsure if this EO will stick, but I am actually in favor of something like this. I dont think regulations for products that live on the internet work on a state by state basis
If I was governor I'd do it anyway. EOs are not decrees
Just scream "states rights" and ignore the fed. Works for fascism.
This isn't even a state's rights issue. Executive orders are just memos for the federal executive branch, not laws or decrees or anything that has any weight beyond 'this is how we will enforce the laws already passed'.
The states should just say 'that isn't how executive orders work' instead of pretending that there is some federal vs state issue.
Not even remotely within the prevue of an EO. Its a show so that he can rail against those states insolence.
But... "states' rights!"
I keep waiting for Republicans to revolt, but then I remember they're Republicans.
Isn't it just a bit suspicious that the industry is preemptively asking for deregulation? It's like they know they're going to do some shady shit and want to make sure no pesky laws get in the way.
Everything about the llm industry is suspicious and predatory. They're doing something that is not only unpopular, it's not just going to put people out of work. People are doing to die. And not in the vague economic sense of "40k extra deaths per point drop in the stock market" sense. I mean in the direct "AI directly caused these deaths and there's no other way to look at it" sense. I'm not sure how, when, or why. But I am sure that the people pushing LLMs the way they are do. And they're trying to establish a legal protection for when that happens.
It's already driven multiple people to panic attacks, one woman to committing herself out of fear of a psychotic break, and several people to suicide and at least one murder.

Friend, please get offline and go outside, talk with other humans face to face, touch some grass. Jesus Christ
Listen. I know. I know how it sounds.
I promise I'm not chronically online. LLMs are the most current end result of a predatory VC industry that has not let ethics slow it down in the past. Why would ethics slow them down now?
Bro they're just pocketing investor cash by hyping the latest tech snakeoil on a level never before seen.
Were NFTs going to kill people too? 🙄
I don't think the OP is saying we'll have LLM Terminators walking around saying, "I will be back!" while mowing down people.
But deaths attributed to LLMs have already started:
Sure, this seems to be just playing on existing mentally ill people, so let's ignore them for now.
What about "AI" pointing the gun and having someone else pull the trigger?
What happens when a trigger happy cop gets a dangerous sounding alert and decides to go in guns blazing?
I don't believe for a minute that the military isn't looking at weaponizing this detection by also having AI "decide" if it should attack.
Then there's the AI in robo taxis - surely those are 100% accurate. Well they had better be - car deaths are the the highest cause of accidental deaths in the US.
I could go on about how AI hallucinating in medical notes taken by copilot could lead to improper prescriptions, or how AI hallucinating could do things like tell people to put glue on pizza.
I mean, I guess some outcomes are just injury not death so...
https://lemmy.world/post/40041447
Every member of staff at the Department of War has been told to start relying on AI. A system that consistently hallucinates. Saying it's going to get people killed is not hyperbole, as much as I wish it was. :/
Remember, this is what they are doing publicly, right out in the open.
We have a black budget system where rule of law doesn't matter... AI is already killing people, controlling warbots, and more. If we are very, very lucky, we'll know the "truth" in 50 years or so.
Do you know what the CIA did after FOIA became a problem? They burned the vast majority of records, with the tidbits they "missed" being truly horrifying. I personally think it was a message, the message being "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here".
The "states rights" people will just ignore this PR move like they do with everything else he does.
When the law no longer pretends to serve the people, it loses a big part of it's social power.
Many people in power today don't seem to really understand the nature of power.
So that title is technically false. Executive Orders apply to the operation of the federal government only, Trump has not blocked anything.
Trump signed an order which claims to be blocking. Trump attempted blocking.
Again, not legal
Look at all these sad pathetic old men, who feel like they have to do terrible things in order to be remembered or rich, sad empty shells of human with dead eyes who totally missed the point of this whole thing and only want to play monopoly. I sincerely hope they all burn.
Maybe go outside and take a walk. World isn't that bad.

Oh yeah you're right looks good now.
At least that guy goes outside. Doesn't seem like you do. Are you always this mad and in such a bad mood? I'm having an awesome day. You should try it!
Go outside more hurr durr. The default reply of CHUDs. People should be furious. Anyways, goodbye.
In a normal world, I'd expect this to get smacked down hard in the courts. But, we can pretty much count on Thomas, Alito and Gorsch being on board with Trump as an overt dictator. So, it just becomes a question about how much leverage the Trump administration has on Kavanaugh, Barret and Roberts. It's pretty sad that we're counting on three compromised people to protect the rule of law.
The order could have far-reaching effects on US efforts to dominate the nascent technology, which has already become a significant part of the economy and the stock market but which also still remains untested in many ways.
Fucking HOW, CNN? It doesn't just not have far reaching effects, it has zero effect.
I feel like I'm being gaslit by news organizations deciding an executive order has relevancy to state laws. They don't even pretend that there's some novel legal theory that could maybe allow it, they just write the whole article like it's a royal decree and self obviously impactful.
The law is backed by the glorious leader being unhinged enough to send his little private army of racists to kidnap and torture anyone who goes against him. He doesn't even need to do that, the threat is good enough so nobody will dare. Newsom maybe, but he has his own technoologarchs to consider
Trump signs (meaningless and unenforceable) executive order... blah blah blah
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