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This is a random screenshot he used in hos video for roughly 2 seconds. This is not his tierlist.
Not of his. This is a known widespread tierlist made by other person (I do not remember if this came from Reddit, a YT video or what, but it is well known)
Brave is a series scam company.
that is not his list, just a random screenshot.
LibreWolf W. Missing my boy Zen Browser on there tho
Edit: also RIP Mull 😔✊
Just because PewDiePie switched to Linux doesn't mean we should listen to his browser recommendations
Very true, I feel like people miss the point of his own experience and/or opinion
True but he's sparking more interest in FOSS so that's still a good thing. I doubt his advice is perfect but if it gets more people started onto their own journey it's a win.
I've looked into it and it's not even his tier list, just one he found online.
The only problem with Ungoogled that makes it "not ideal for a normal human" is that fact that it is still cumbersome af to download it. Regular people don't know github and how to click on "show all assets" and pick the right build.
Isn't installing extensions in it also a pain, since the Google webstore doesn't let you install from it?
I guess to answer my own question, I looked it up - there's an extension to let you do that alongside some flag changes, so I guess not too bad... But it's another step on the list of things you'd want to do as a user
Is https://download-chromium.appspot.com/ not good enough?
I don't use this as a my main browser though, just for testing. I don't recommend Chromium backends due to Google control over it.
That's not Ungoogled Chromium, at all. Not even close.
Right, is https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium then? Take like 4 clicks to get a working AppImage.
Not a problem in Vivaldi, you can install even pure scripts as extension, without the need of an Userscript Manager, like TamperMonkey or similar. Due to the great amount of features, most extension from the Chrome Store are anyway redundant.
No I did not and I'm not sure what you imagine "regular users" might be. I feel that if someone goes the extra length to get their browser outside of a store, they can do the same with extensions, is it extravagant?
I know it's been said, but Brave is a hard no. Replace it with Ungoogled Chromium. I haven't seen the video so I don't understand why it's in the "not ideal for a normal human" list, and I am biased since I use plenty of "not for normal" tools.
I believe its this: https://lemmy.world/post/32106925/17916457
What exactly has he done to warrant considering this? He's a yt star, not a privacy expert.
tits no his list
He's been getting into FOSS and privacy lately
So explicitly not an expert.
Still can't believe that Pewdiepie became one of those Linux youtubers, only thing missing is linux distro reviews and why he can't use X software xD
Never seen anoyone rank brave alongside or even above standard firefox.
No Mull?
I kinda think Floorp is better than waterfox
Brave? Hard no. Vivaldi? Also no.
Also, where are qutebrowser and Zen?
qutebrowser and IceCat are real top of the game when it comes to privacy. But then, they break some of the sites functionality, especially IceCat who seems to be going under the "if your site doesn't work, it's your site's problem" motto.
Which is honestly fair? Like, i would enjoy a "unsafe site, access anyways?" button, but if privacy settings break a page that literally is the pages fault for not respecting privacy.
Edit: typo
Kinda, but I would like to tailor my experience a bit more than "all or nothing".
IceCat is directly a GNU project, so it's highly ideological - which is important and respectable in a way, but then it gets adoption to near-zero because most sites just don't work out of the box, and to make it work properly means completely removing all safeguards that make IceCat make sense. There's little in between.
I'd rather have something like LibreWolf, but without phone-home functionality, or at least a switch to turn it off. Out of all Firefox forks I know, only IceCat respects user privacy in this way - 0 connections on startup, and then only connection to actual site and whatever it requires.
Opt-in telemetry (ideally - leveled) and manual bug information sending are totally fine, though.
What's bad about Vivaldi?
... I don't think listening to random big influencers is a good way forward (in anything).
(As to the list - others already pointed out everything, y'all nerds know shit! <3)
Ppl focusing on the negative. It's just his subjective list. He doesn't claim to be an expert. Lemmy autism peaking here. More exposure to foss is good guys
Putting Cromite at the bottom most tier makes me discard the entire thing.
And Brave at the top lmao.
This dude poopoopie has always been garbage.
Your comment made me look at the list again. I didn’t even realise Brave is located at the very top.
Also, why is “not ideal for a normal human” at the middle of the list?
Garbage, indeed.
Doesn’t matter if it is his list nor did I ever say it was garbage because it is his.
It is garbage, objectively.
What a weird thing to argue.
It doesn’t matter whether the list is part of the video or whether it was created by PewDiePie.
The list, in the screenshot of OP, is garbage.
Besides, the same screenshot is of a video that shows the list along with the name of the channel and the video title (which correlates with other news of the creator releasing an anti-Google video). So the list, for all purposes of this discussion, is part of the video.
Why is the open source Chromium ranked worse than Google Chrome? Like sure, it's not gonna go very high, but it deserves better than that.
Ngl, feel like his tier list is based on usability while avoiding big tech.
Tbh even if this tierlist is not the best or great, it still is "good enough". Plus the most important thing is to get tons of people interested.
I rather have "good enough" tier list that reaches to millions of people, then have a perfect tierlist that only reaches out to less than a dozen people.
Because amongst the millions of people who are interested, thousands of them will do their own research into privacy and dig deeper into it.
Plus right now, the biggest weakness of privacy is the fact that our community is too small to make an impact.
Having someone give this much outreach and influence to attract attention towards privacy is a good thing. (well, as long as their advice are on the positive end of the spectrum, and pewdiepie's advise surely is, even if its not perfect)
Where's ladybird
Edit - I didn't know about the Transphobia going on there. that is unjustifiable.
In the trash with the rest of the transphobes
Wait, something happened with ladybird? Or is just a joke?
This is a fairly unbiased writeup
Thx :D That was a good read. I didn't know about that
I didn't find any specifics in that article. What does it mean that the documentation was asked to be more gender neutral? I can't think of any gendered documentation I have read from any other projects.
The user was referred to as "he" in the all the documentation. Random made up example "if the user wants to change his settings he will click this button in the top left" or whatever.
A very normal PR was raised that just changed these uses to be gender neutral and it was declined for being too political.
Thanks for claryfing. I'm not well versed in using git, but does the PR mean that all the work to change the pronouns was already done? All the owner of the repo had to do was accept the changes?
I mean ladybird certainly would be lowest tier, considering you first have to compile yourself 😂 also it's pre alpha state...
But it'll be interesting to see how far they've come on 1 year
Ladybird Trattoria? About 10 minutes away from Linus Media Group.
Not sure why you asked but you now have an answer, hope it helps
No Zen-Browser (though I am not sure when this vid was made), and Pale Moon should be in the "Not ideal for a normal human" at best.
That's a good find that famous people are getting into FOSS (should be free as in freedom too). But it's really not a good thing that they spread a non expert speaking to the crowd.
Tier lists are meant to be mainly subjective and pretty relative to the person that made it. In that way Pewdipie could quote experts but in no case should make a tier list based on what he found the last weeks (I didn't fully watched the video so maybe I'm wrong and he made a big disclaimer)
If you watch the video, Felix tells you twice in the same sentence that he uses Arch.
Lemmy had taught me that this means Felix IS an expert on FOSS
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