Bettteridge says no.

It's not just about winning, it's about ideology. Embracing demsoc candidates wouldn't just be a change in strategy, it would be a change in the party's core ideology. Ideology is why political parties exist. Political parties are usually based in ideology, that's why in other democracies there are liberal parties, conservative parties, socialist parties, Libertarian parties, etc. But here in the US we don't have a system of political ideology plurality, so the two parties that we do have are often fighting internally to determine what the core ideology of the party will be.

You know why so many Democrats don't like demsoc candidates? Because they're not demsocs. They're social liberals or neoliberals, and they want the Democratic party to remain an ideologically Liberal party.

If our democracy were more like most every other democracy on the planet, the neoliberals and the demsocs would each have their own party, and they wouldn't need to be engaged in this constant, zero sum fight for control of one party.

Nah

Copying and pasting my comment from the earlier thread.

Did anyone actually read the article or did y'all just read the headline?

He says probably not, but it doesn't matter, because it's up to the people to rise up and push them out like they've started to as part of the Sanders/AOC rallies, the No Kings protest, and Mamdani's primary victory.

How can they learn what they already knew? The weakness/corruption/etc. is on purpose to serve their donors. The DNC already knows how powerful a leftist, grassroots movement is, which is why they snub the lefty candidate at every chance instead of letting their namesake run its course.

Haha no

Will the current Democratic party leadership learn the lessons of the Mamdani campaign? Probably not.

Betteridge's law of headlines.

No.

Those of us not in a ranked-choice system in NYC may need to have a plan for the seething MAGAt olds that infest our red states and rural areas. Ignoring them does seem ideal, but the math doesn't work out right.

A girl can dream

Absolutely not. Their owners will not allow it.

I would rather progressives become emboldened, run for far more Dem positions, and do a reverse Tea Party to drag the party back towards sanity

Not likely, it doesn't serve their primary corporate interests

The Democrat establishment? No.

Democrat voters? Fucking hopefully, and the lesson they hopefully fucking learn is vote in the primaries

Higher level democrats? No, not at all.

In fact, many of them will see this as a bad thing, and will double down on their establishment ways.

They will learn to do everything they can to stop the implementation of ranked choice primaries.

And primaries overall.

No, so that's why we need to replace the Democrats by showing up for primaries.

🤣 No, They just learned to double down on rhetoric.

Whaaaa why do people want to eat and afford rent so bad, why can't they just ask daddy for money"

LOL! Good one.

Will the democrats learn

Will pigs fly?

Nope. They'll run all their stupid milquetoast "centrist" candidates like usual.

Betteridge's law of headlines.

No.

Forgive me such a silly question, but is it possible to... you know... decome a member of the dems and have your say?

No, but we will.

Nope.

Absolutely fucking not. Not because they can't but because they don't want to. They'll rather live under fascism than enact meaningful change for the benefit of the general public.

It's not about learning, it's a power struggle.

Did anyone actually read the article or did y'all just read the headline?

He says probably not, but it doesn't matter, because it's up to the people to rise up and push them out like they've started to as part of the Sanders/AOC rallies, the No Kings protest, and Mamdani's primary victory.

It is becoming glaringly obvious that the purpose the Democratic Party serves for at least the last two decades is to quash any progressive aspiration. If they learn anything, it will be that they need to stomp down harder.

On that note, if this guy manages to actually win the election he is going to be murdered. Fascism will be too far along and he does not have the unwavering support of the NYPD to protect him. In fact they are the most likely party to orchestrate it.

Betteridge's law of headlines.

No.