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Kiev will have to make ‘painful concessions’ to achieve peace – German foreign minister (swentr.site)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml
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[–] 27 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Oh boy, strap in. Can't wait to hear how many keyboard commandos think Ukrainians should get shoved into the meat grinder for another year.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Well if we're not going to bother helping them win, then yeah, I guess they should surrender for now until Russia's recovered enough that they can finish the job.

    Fuck Ukraine, not our problem, there's nothing we can do anyway and none of this is ever going to affect any of us. /s

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Well if we’re not going to bother helping them win

    We've been happy to lard them up with debt and sell them overpriced military surplus. Idk if that counts as "helping them win" but we've made a handsome profit off it.

    Fuck Ukraine, not our problem

    Hey now. Don't look at Ukraine as a problem. Look at Ukraine as a big play for recently vacated real estate. Jared Kushner is going to make so much fucking money leasing Ukraine's land back to its residents.

    Now Ukrainians? They're going to get fucked.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Fair point, but really, I don't know why they can't single-handedly win a war against a country 10x their size using only our obsolete overpriced leftovers, with strings attached telling how they're allowed and not allowed to use them. Are they even trying? /s

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago

    I don’t know why they can’t single-handedly win a war against a country 10x their size using only our obsolete overpriced leftovers

    I mean, ask Afghanistan, Vietnam, or Korea.

    But also ask why these wars popped off to begin with and why they dragged on long after any foreign country had a material interest in continuing the fight.

    Also maybe look into the UON and question why the Canadian Parliament was applauding an elderly SS Officer who described WW2 as the best years of his life.

    Tons of profit in war mongering.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    It's their decision of course. I hate to see them lose, and I hate that my country isn't doing more. We made a damn promise, and when it came time to make good, we half-assed it. Not enough oil I guess. But I also don't want to see Russia bully their way to more territory either, as that just shows the world that they are still a threat, and leads to another round of russian fear for the world.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    The world doesn't fear Russia, though, the world fears the west. It's the west that fears Russia, and is harvesting Ukraine for resources and racking them up with debt for hand-me-down surplus to support the far-right Banderites in Kiev ethnic cleansing the Donbass region. The Ukrainian people increasingly want peace over war, not to fight to the last Ukrainian, it's the Banderites that want to sacrifice Ukrainain people while they hide from the frontlines.

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    • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Is Germany accepting reality?

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    • [+] 7 points 11 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    Ignoring how you can consider being against nazis to be "in the wrong", Russia doesn't have to make painful concessions because they are not losing the war. That's how war works.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    In the wrong to topple an illegitimate empire-propped Nazi government?

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    [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Why is it that I only see this news story on Russia-affiliated sites? Strange.

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    • [+] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
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    • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Damn, as if Walter White's opinion from Comic-Con matters.

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