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[–] 120 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

If social policies put you out of business, you don’t run a business, you run a racket.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    This tshirt I would buy. Or hooded sweatshirt

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 92 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    2025 update:

    'can't pay artists to train our ai models, it'd put us out of business!'

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I wish they would. AI VA could be so great if people were just paid properly.

    Imagine- You have the English Voice track for Arnie in Terminator- but you need a Chinese version.

    Old worlds- You either have a bad local VA that sucks but is at least 'acting' OR you have people reading the script over the English version, you get the inflections from English, but the verbiage from local... script readers.

    Imagine if instead of using AI to cheap out, you got those local VA's to do a version of the voices (and paid them!) then ran it through an NN so that the input was the local VA and the output is a combination of that and Arnold's voice (and all parties are paid appropriately, this isn't suppose to be a cheap out process) such that you could hear 'arnie' in all langauges - That would be great.

    But instead we just get cheating artists out of pay for a worse quality product.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    They can't even make money stealing other people's work. Actually paying for it is out of the question. Right now they're still living in the free money portion of a bubble. The crash is going to hurt a lot.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    You’ve already shown a flaw, which is that English inflections do not match other languages. “I will go” in English is not “Je irai” in French but rather some more like “moi, j’irai.” The sound of the voice also wouldn’t make any sense because different dubs will change to fit local stereotypes. In the states they will have someone sound like a redneck but in Germany they might lean into a Bavarian accent for the same effect.

    With the low level of understanding demonstrated in your comment, plus the high level of confidence in your solution, you’re showing exactly why it’s a bad idea. Just pay voice actors and pay them enough that they will actually be of a certain quality instead of bitching that the dime-store VA people aren’t giving you top-tier performances.

    Take the AI and throw it straight in the garbage. We don’t need it and we don’t fucking want it. All it does is cost more money to produce a product that only an ignorant, over-confident corpo thinks is any good.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    "Can't stop training algorithms on IP we don't own, would put us out of busuness."

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Can't tax the Billionaires, they would run away

    Can't implement healthcare for all, it would cost too much

    Can't allow people to unionize, it would hurt business

    Can't regulate banks, the free market knows best

    Can't fix tax loopholes, the rich will just find new ones

    ...

    I could go on. For the every common sense solution there is a lie from the right, why it would not work. Always the same disproven lies, repeated like a mantra.

    In workers rights and beyond.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    You would think the fact that these policies led to 1% of the population controlling 99% of the wealth would prove its all bullshit, but people just can't seem to get enough boot polish in their diets

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I never understood government regulation being portrayed as bad by the proponents (not profiteers, as in their case there is a much more obvious incentive) of capitalism. As a business owner you are "not allowed" to break the laws of physics. You can't build a factory that makes your product out of air (unless you sell liquid nitrogen I guess). No one makes an argument against physics. If the government decides you also can't build a factory that dumps all it's waste into the residential watersupply that's just the rules of the game now. It's not like your rivals are going to be any more allowed to that, so why be bitch about it? As long as everyone plays by the same rules - be they hard truths or laws that ensure the welfare of the people - there really is no argument to be made against tweaking them. If your business model doesn't leave space for safe waste disposal, should we go with that example, then your business model is just as ridiculous as trying to for example make cars out of thin air.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    These people are the kind to talk about how smart and great they are and that’s why they deserve hundreds of millions of dollars but also when all the studies show that four-day work-week would lead to increase productivity and a high quality of work they kick and scream like little babies.

    They don’t know what they’re doing so they complain about the rules that make things hard. Why get good when you can just throw a temper-tantrum and then brag about how you finished Dark Souls without telling anyone that you played it on god-mode?

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Can't stop exploiting animals, it'd be bad for the economy

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I'm a little more upset that we can't stop exploiting people.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Even if you believe the life of a human is thousand times more important than the life of a single animal, the scale at which we exploit animals would still be immensely worse. And also this is literally just whataboutism

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Fuck your business. If it's not even equitable to live, get fucked, social contract broken, and I will just take whatever I need from you by force. I'm not gonna lay down and die because of your fucking profit margin.

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  • [+] -16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    To be fair, unless you've got a fair system to begin with, raising the minimum wage won't increase purchasing power anyway. Prices just scale up.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    That's funny, because prices in states with a higher minimum wage than federal aren't proportionally higher than states with a lower minimum wage.

    It's almost like payroll isn't the only expense the company has.

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    [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm almost to the point of thinking that we should abandon business altogether. It seems like it's bad for most of the populous as well as the earth's environment. If we only had some sort of fancy calculating machinery that could effectively manage resources.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    This shouldn't be directed at companies. They're the ones that are saying this, but that's what they should do. Find the best route for the betterment of the company and its products.

    That is why we need regulation from the government. To narrow the path that companies can take to maximize profits and growth. The real problem, and why so many of these maintained traction until they didn't, is when businesses and government intermingle with each other.

    We need a separation of corporate and state, just like church and state, for similar reasons. And the church and state one has always been kind of weak, some times more than others. Government should be impartial and fair to all matters, period.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    We need a separation of corporate and state, just like church and state

    The churches have been actively poking holes in that wall for a century or more.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Well, one particular religion. They talk about being persecuted while practicing it on other beliefs.

    But at least there's something in writing to argue about, whereas I don't know of any rules protecting corporate influence on lawmakers. Maybe there are some limitations on lobbying and money waving, but there's also loopholes. Just the issues of insider trading and other ways to profit from the positions of power shouldn't be possible in an ideal government by the people and for the people.

    Likewise on the other side, it shouldn't be possible to just pay a fine and keep breaking existing regulations. There may be a parallel there with the average person and the wealthy - where one goes to jail for something and the other just waves it off because of who they are. Small businesses can't get away with breaking laws like the big ones can. Deep pockets and influence matter, and they shouldn't.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    This shouldn't be directed at companies. They're the ones that are saying this, but that's what they should do.

    Nah, screw that. The notion that companies "have" to be fucking sociopathic is basically a historical accident caused by a bad (or maybe malicious) inaccurate court transcription. It doesn't have to be that way.

    Incorporation and limited liability used to be considered privileges that companies were granted in exchange for providing benefit to the public at large (not just the shareholders). The current situation is absolutely a perversion of the purpose of incorporation and needs to be massively overhauled.

    See also: https://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate-accountability-history-corporations-us/

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    American companies still profit off exploiting cheap labour, it's just overseas now

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