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[–] 27 points 11 months ago

This is what these people voted for/wanted. Not sure why they are complaining now.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Leopards are gorgeous creatures

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  • [+] -6 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm extremely skeptical as to the impact on these investments in the first place. Retraining workers to install solar panels and drywall and building a solar panel installation warehouses in an area that doesn't have the economic engine to buy this new construction seems extraordinarily backwards. It's like a free market version of China's ghost cities but worse because you don't even get actual infrastructure from it.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    If only there were a government program that incentivized and subsidized large scale energy infrastructure improvements to build economies of scale in the markets and increase affordability for all peoples.

    Oh wait, there was, until a certain president thought those folks should go back to digging and black lung.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    By energy infrastructure improvements you're talking about building houses and installing solar panels in places that nobody can live in because the only jobs are building houses and installing solar panels right? Because if ridgeline wind turbines, rail electrification and improvement, and grid backbone power lines are what you're talking about I don't think that's in the bill.

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    [–] 37 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    yet many of those interviewed by the Guardian blame Washington politics generally rather than Trump.

    Normally I'd offer two in the thoughts and one in the prayers, but in this case, I hope that they marinate in the consequences that they voted for.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Becuase thats what they have been trained to say. They are not even smarter than a dog, they do their trick for trump, but never actually get their treat.

    Maga are litterally dumber than dogs.

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Deep MAGA country will kill themselves with dirty air, no jobs (and drug addiction that comes from that), and corporate overreach polluting their food and water, all to "oWn ThE lIbS"

    They must be so tired of winning huh. Fuck these idiots, they deserve every piece of suffering they get from this. That's the only way these people ever learn, when it personally impacts them, and even still that might not teach them.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I live in the south. All the Republican voters I meet are either people who think they're wealthy enough to benefit from Republican tax policies, or (much more commonly) have been taken up by the propaganda machine and genuinely believe that Trump is a good Christian man who cares about the working class and is tirelessly working to Make America Great Again after immigrants and Obama made it not great.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Newsmax, Fox, and OANN need to be dealt with somehow

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    What's sad is I'm doing moderately okay I would say on the coast - and I know I am far out of reach of getting any of those tax cuts. They have no idea how much they're getting duped to think that they're even remotely close to getting anything.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah what I'm hearing is that it's pointless for democrats to give good jobs to west Virginia.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    coal has been largely been replaced by natural gas/and oil, not even green energy yet. the gop has a stranglehold because they keep making empty promises.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    I heard that the clean coal movement was a massive scam, and there's no scientific merit to it.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago

    In 2022, the Biden administration earmarked billions of dollars to help revitalize and strengthen former coal communities. The objective was to lay down building blocks for the region to transition from extractive industries like coal and timber to a hub for solar and other advanced energy technologies, with a view to long-term economic, climate and social resilience.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Just one of hundreds of green washing marketing methods (aka lying).

    Just like the term "natural gas", which the industry has pushed so people don't think it's that bad because it's natural. It's methane gas from fossil fuel, which is actually like 80x more potent than carbon dioxide.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    When it leaks. When it burns, it produces less pollution than things like coal or petrol.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. But when you have highly pressurized gas, it leaks at every step of the pipeline from extraction, transmission, to end uses. Methane leaks are a huge problem.

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    [–] 21 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Are these the same people that voted for Trump in 2016 because Hillary said she was going to fund training and retooling for them to move into renewable energy and ended the speech by saying she was going to put coal mines out of business?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago*

    Not that people shouldn't be held accountable for their politics, but, as in everything, the issue is more complex than it seems that face value.

    I was placed in the region through Teach for America a decade ago, right in the midst of the first Trump election. I initially took the political rhetoric at face value, assuming everyone was parroting the viewpoints of conservative talking heads.

    While there is some truth to that, the actuality of any individual's opinion is more nuanced than that.

    The area has been historically marginalized and abused by corporate and political powers of all varieties. Coal severance money was misdirected, and many of the mine owners saw the writing on the wall, taking all available funds and abandoning the area.

    As a consequence, the working class was left with few jobs outside of healthcare or education, with a consequent over-reliance on government assistance, leaving the populace with a feeling of hopelessness and abandonment.

    The fall from prosperity happened with a similar, and related, flight to large cities. From the viewpoint of the marginalized, it seemed as if liberal policies favored Urban prosperity over rural.

    Not that the issue can be whittled down to the urban and rural divide, but the overwhelming sense was that something drastic needed to change, and only one political party even acknowledged that sentiment.

    The area has certainly been propagandized to, but most of the opinions are more moderate and practical than the election results would imply.

    Like much of the country, it is very easy to find the vocal minority that treats the political scene like a sports match, with an almost religious devotion to "their team". I just wish there was more condemnation of those people who address it that stupidly.

    With it being such a rural area, the community relies on each other, and easily looks past any problematic opinions, in favor of meaningful human connection in action.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Narrator: They’re looking forward to voting for JD Vance to finally get that trickled down wealth.

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