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[–] 125 points 1 year ago (17 children)

The cowardice of it being an unsigned letter is almost the most galling part. Sniveling authoritarian cowards

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    When no one signs, they all signed

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Except those who dissented publicly, right? Pretty sure Sotomayor was pretty publicly pissed off at the rest of the court.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    The voices of reason are becoming outweighed here.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Yeah so let's just ignore that they exist.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You misunderstood me, possibly because you were telling me to go fuck myself on another post. "Assaultpotato" is a voice of reason on this post. People read a news story about the Supreme Court staying an order and now want to impeach the whole Court?

    I'm afraid the politics and news communities hosted on Lemmy servers are falling off the deep end.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It was one commenter and the following comments rebuking them are much more highly upvoted. It's maybe a bit early to stick a fork in it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    When no one signs, they all signed

    Has 8:1 upvotes to downvotes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Except those who dissented publicly, right? Pretty sure Sotomayor was pretty publicly pissed off at the rest of the court.

    Has 43 upvotes as of this comment.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I guess people just don't like to downvote. Which is outside of my experience, but maybe I am more polarizing.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Some instances disable downvotes. Certainly not all, but some. I'm not 100% sure if that means they dont count down votes in their communities, or if they dont allow their users to downvote anywhere, but I suspect the latter.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Personally I reserve downvotes for rulebreaking, offensive comments, spam, things of that nature. Differences of opinion I just don't upvote. Perhaps this is more common on Lemmy than other places.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You say that, but majorities across the board are razor thin. Assuming there's still midterms a lot of this can be flipped.

    The courts of course will be harder to fix

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    In our system a large enough majority in congress can overrule a lot of what the courts are doing unless they go absolutely bonkers.

    The court can say there's nothing the in the constitution that prevents "X", but congress with a large enough majority can pass a bill without the president's signature to expressly allow "X".

    Our courts have not yet shown a willingness to go totally rouge and have voted against Trump several times this administration alone, but they always could go rouge I suppose. And of course they make shitty decisions like these.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately viewed from the constitutionalist theory which has always existed within the court it does make sense. There is a fair argument, one i personally disagree with, that the result of Roe is not in the constitution and therefore not something the court can legislate from the bench. Likewise with the arguments used against Trans youth.

    I don't like these decisions, I don't support these decisions, but they do exist within the traditional frameworks and legal arguments of courts past. We've been rather fortunate for the past 30 or so years to have a more liberal court that prefers to take an interpretive view.

    The only decision they've made recently that is outside of that is the idea that the president has total immunity for "official acts" that has no basis in the constitution at all.

    If anything the current court make up emphasizes why things like Roe should have been codified years ago.

    These are dark times for many of the liberties we all enjoy, but for the most part this courts actions do line up with historical precedent of a conservative court. It is a nightmare, and far too many people are going to suffer. I just hope that we all make it out of this and Institute real reforms across the board.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
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    You know we're probably very close on the political spectrum.

    I've just studied a lot history, and you've basically described the entire debate that's been within the Supreme Court since day 1.

    Look at slavery and segregation. They ruled in favor of those several times, and eventually they even reversed their decisions. Like you said the constitution didn't change the court did. I wouldn't say ending school segregation was a rogue act.

    I personally hate this court. But I think it is very important to analyze these decisions in the historical context of the court.

    Like I said these decisions are terrible for the American people, they will take decades to repair, and cause terrible harm. My hope is we make it out of this and we have true reform of the courts.

    Between you and me I'd love to see this whole system torn down, but I'm doubtful that will happen in my lifetime.

    And I'll give you the suspension of habeas corpus and they released a multitude of decisions today. Your comment from days ago is now much much more accurate imo based on the decisions of the past 2 days.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Cool. So if I join ICE, am I allowed to sneak up on random people and toss em in my van?

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    [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Can we just scrap the Untied States and start over? This franchise needs a reboot

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    We have a constitution so old as to be a relic, antique. No well run democracy still uses a constitution that old, because they've made huge improvements in the past couple centuries. We should absolutely start from scratch.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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  • [+] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah let's get rid of them, especially the liberal justices, so they can be replaced by... Donald Trump?

    Say what you want about Kavanaugh but I'd be willing to bet he'd look like a Boy Scout compared to whoever Trump would nominate today.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How is that weird? Getting rid of these justices ends exactly how I described. Unless you get rid of Trump first then removing SC justices will just put you in an even worse spot.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    There is no more rule of law. Plan accordingly.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Clearly the peaceful protests are working!

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  • [–] 48 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    At the last protest, I embraced a crying queer young adult for over an hour, because they were completely beside themselves.

    They had a mental breakdown because they didn't even realize they were living with so much stress and fear these past few months.

    And when they finally summoned the courage to show up to their very first protest in their young life, they SO relieved that so many people CARED about that happened to them that it completely overwhelmed them.

    So please and kindly, shut the fuck up.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    A lot of folks forget that peaceful protests are a great way to get people together and doing something, even if that something is initially just catharsis. Even if things escalate to... let's say spray painting JD Vance oompa loompa graffiti everywhere... forming up at protests is how you can make that happen.

    Thanks for being there. We need more people like you.

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  • [+] -16 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    And if we were able to actually EFFECTUATE CHANGE they’d never have to feel that way again. So YOU can kindly shut the fuck up and see about making things happen rather feeling better about the shit going down. Because when they come for you, or your friend, or whoever, you know that hat they’ll say? Fuck your feelings. And by then it’ll either be WAAAAAAAYYYY harder to fix, or completely impossible. I’m more of “stitch in time saves nine” person, not a “oh shit everything has gone to hell just like we’d been warned for a long, long time so now let’s see if they’ll listen to us as we address them reasonably (even though that approach has been ridiculed, mocked, and shown 100% ineffective against these clowns and the Nazis that came before them)” person.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Lemme know how cumbaya sounds in El Salvador. Or Libya. Or wherever the fuck you end up.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Talk talk talk. Go start a gang then. Make the next Black Panthers. You won't celebrate little wins for potential allies because your wrath pushes you to demand more. That's the same productivity squeezing mentality of a Walmart middle manager.

    That is, assuming you aren't a plant trawling around for dissidents to investigate.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Wow, with this level of hate I’ll just sit back and watch them come for you. Fuck everyone who is just sitting here watching things happen - I HOPE you find out how pointless what you’re doing is!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    With all due respect (none), you're literally worse than useless. Maybe you can collect a check from the CIA, since you're doing what they normally do (actively harming discourse in politically left leaning spaces) for free.

    Additionally, if that is what you classify as hate, then maybe your skin isn't thick enough to actually do the hard work of fixing shit, of taking the power back. You're probably better suited to activities that are far more subservient, things like boot taste testing, or nazi apologia.

    Your reactionary bullshit isn't helping anyone.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And your “do nothing” attitude is also of no help. So sounds like you and I are the same.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    I’ll just sit back and watch them come for you.

    I mean, I had no faith to begin with that you would do anything but sit back. That's why my advice was to get active instead of talk.

    Fuck everyone who is just sitting here watching things happen

    I'm used to reading, "go f*** yourself." but this may be the first time I have read "go f*** myself." Grabbed this for you to help you watch 🪞 (* >ω<)

    I hope you eventually find joy by not obsessing over other people. Lead, don't dictate. (-ε- )

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    BTW, I could not connect this headline to the stay announced yesterday which everyone had already commented on. That's how bad this headline is. Deportations became "abductions" and "disappearances." Now they're "human trafficking."

    I hope this rhetoric plays better with the general public than "weird."

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    What do you call it when people in plain clothes, wearing masks and refusing to identify themselves as law enforcement literally abduct people (and their fucking terminally ill children), and put them on a flight to a prison in a country that they have never been to and have zero connection to? What is that called?

    This is literally human trafficking. Go fuck yourself for acting like this is in any way normal.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This is literally human trafficking.

    Provide a definition from a credible reference.

    Wikipedia:

    the act of recruiting, transporting, transferring, harboring, or receiving individuals through force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of exploitation.

    Oxford Languages:

    the unlawful act of transporting or coercing people in order to benefit from their work or service, typically in the form of forced labor or sexual exploitation.

    Both these definitions specify exploitation in some fashion.

    Go fuck yourself for acting like this is in any way normal.

    Get a hold of yourself? Outrage over words we can look up is stupid. 🤡

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If they actually were law enforcement, it's called deportation. The fact that they go about it in scummy ways is important but doesn't make the rhetoric accurate.

    The way the deportations are happening is not normal.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago*

    This is not how deportation works, as evidenced by the fact that the Supreme Court heard the case in the first place.

    Up until this decision, this is never how deportation has worked. They changed the definition here.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago

    This isn’t hyperbole.

    F to doubt

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    “We ruled this way because we want new RVs and paid trips to the Bahamas”

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Revolution or reform?

    I think reform has totally lost the plot at this point.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Can’t wait for the “homegrowns” to start being shipped to black sites in Rwanda. We’ve practiced for decades toppling democracies and installing dictatorships abroad. This shameful foreign policy is now turning inward. The oligarchs and their puppet politicians want this. There is no reforming. The business plot was foiled in the 30s, but like the civil war the perpetrators were handled with kid’s gloves. The US has a long history of being lenient on those with a modicum of power/wealth. Abhorrent shit. Good luck, everyone.

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