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[–] 3 points 11 months ago

Jeez, what a shit show.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    And they will proceed to absolutely nothing but make it worse.

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    [–] 60 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    "But don't worry. Our next update will include an agentic self-repair feature based on Copilot that will automatically take initiative to change your settings, delete unnecessary files and read your email. Nothing could possibly go wrong."

    Incoherent anguished screaming

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Actually, if that makes it onto the enterprise version of Windows, it could be fun. I'd love to pit Microsoft's dumbass AI against my company's dumbass IT policies.

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  • [–] 48 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Remember when they announced native Android app support as a main selling feature for Win 11 and then quietly axed it later? The only thing actually drawing people to Win 11 is them pulling the plug on 10, and even that isn't working that well.

    Maybe they should try making a good OS instead of all their other BS.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    They already did those shensnigans to force people from 7 to 10.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The 7 to 10 migration was pretty standard. MS has typically supported a Windows version through the lifetime of its successor, only stopping support about the time the release after that comes out. XP was supported until 7, Vista was supported until 8, and 8 was supported until 11 came out. By the usual pattern, 10 should have been supported until 12 came out, not two years after support for 8 was dropped.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I was so excited about that, because running some Android apps natively on my Desktop PC would've been amazing. But it never really worked well, installing the PlayStore was not officially supported (and painful) and then it got canned.

    The only "good" thing that improved with Windows 11 was WSL, and as soon as I found an employer that allowed me to use a native Linux machine I ran away from the Windows dumpsterfire as fast as I could.

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  • [–] 42 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    The acceleration of agentic coding and the plummet in software quality & reliability aren't two separate stories. They're the same story. Even if a particular bug/problem can't be traced back to a slop source, the proliferation of slop is itself a net drag on software teams and leads to overall deskilling and focus diversion.

    We have a duty as industry professionals to fight back, say no, and make sure companies are aware this "new normal" is completely and utterly unacceptable.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    But these problems took off way before code assistants were common.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    As I alluded to, when that's the case it's still now agentic coding to blame because of the diversion of focus. Companies such as Microsoft, instead of improving their existing human-based craft, introduce literal roadblocks to the improvement of craft both in terms of time/resources and also in terms of corporate culture.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    Maybe. But even if everyone banned AI instantly, the culture and (I'd argue) massive mismanagement problems aren't getting any better.

    Hence I think it's iffy to attribute all these software problems to 'AI' so quickly, especially before it's really had time to affect old systems like Microsoft Windows.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    This is now multiple times over multiple post threads where you've replied to literally whatever I have said that is critical of LLMs and directly contradicted it. I don't wish to continue such fruitless conversations.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Sorry. Coming off as a tech bro was not my intent, and let me be clear: these LLMs can, and do, do some shit to code in alien, difficult to trace ways. It's an existential issue.

    ...I just don't want it to mask a problem that's already there, either. Microsoft's dysfunction goes way beyond their code completion integrations.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    OK that's fair. And also it's not my intent to blame AI for all problems of software culture. Just seems in many ways we're going backwards as an industry.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    I'd argue its a leadership culture problem.

    AI is a perfectly distilled example: pushing an underbaked, sometimes neat tool in completely dysfunctional time-wasting ways, from the top down, because leadership is infatuated with the dream of it, talking to other infuatuated leaders, and feeling FOMO... I guess that's why I came off so cynical when I read this:

    We have a duty as industry professionals to fight back, say no, and make sure companies are aware this “new normal” is completely and utterly unacceptable.

    ...But this keeps happenening.

    AI wouldn't be the infectious mess it is without underlying structural issues, and pushing back on 'AI' directly doesn't really convey "you shouldn't have shoved this down our throats in the first place, again!" I dunno how how fix that though.

    EDIT: I'm definitely venting at this point, apologies.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    How to destroy a companies already horrible rep in one product.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Cool.

    Are there any Linux distros that are good with both touchscreen and fingerprint scanners? I have a laptop that needs a bigger hard drive, so might as well get a new OS, and its touchscreen with a fingerprint scanner. I use it to look stuff up when I’m using another computer, and to download stuff. That’s about it now that I have a “real gaming computer”.

    I use Ubuntu on my other computers, and I like it well enough. I’ve tried mint cinnamon and did not particularly like it. I’m sure ubuntu would be fine to use again, but I’d like to try something else.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    I have no personal experience with fingerprint scanners on Linux, from what I have heard it depends on your laptop with Thinkpads having usually the best support. Regarding the touchscreen, I use Fedora Silverblue on a Surface Go and Project Bluefin on a Thinkpad T480s. Touch works well on both.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    I wouldn't know. I use Bazzite

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    False alarm, they only admit current XAML problems.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    As always, no one read the very short article.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Its OK, just have AI fix the problem by first looking online for an AI who had the same problem and figured out some slop that hgrsa kjfsb the whole thing by ooh up! Dhdgbjtcdr hgdrbbkk!

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    [–] 50 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    One is nearly inclined to think that in-house beta testers weren't a waste of money.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Only if revenue goes down.

    Sacking testers makes nothing but sense if your customers are as dumb as us. My employer continues to sign contracts before the functions we need have been proven. income independent of functionality.

    TBF our procurement people don't seem to think our requirements are any more complex than "big computer" and MS probably offered "really big really good computer, cheap computer, big , nice price, 25% less than oracle, high security, safe computer, cloud, ai, yes fully working with 12 month, you pay now, special discount, extra 10% off if you sign today, hurry rush best deal".

    I suspect negotiations like that drive a disappointingly large amounts of their revenue.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    And then Microsoft gets annoyed when people don't immediately start using Win 10, then Win 11.

    Seeing the results, it looks like earlier versions had more QA done before the release, whereas nowaday a bigger part of QA is done by customers after the release.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago

    Maybe they shouldn't have fired their QA department

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Can you imagine, what if Microsoft in the future will swap to Linux as their Kernel for Windows? Then WINE and Proton are also much better if Microsoft is actively working on it, as they would need it in a Linux based Windows system. I am talking about something like 20 years from from now. Looking at Android or even SteamOS, it could still be filled with proprietary stuff. But Microsoft would benefit from the superior system and lots of free development. Does anyone else think this could be a possibility?

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Would Wine be better with Microsoft working on it? The frequency and severity of regressions in Windows has been increasing for years now. Maybe for Wine to be a more accurate representation of Windows 11 it needs more bugs and less functionality. The Windows team is good at that.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    yeah, wine's trajectory is the complete opposite of MS.

    I reject the idea that MS is the expert in MS stuff. corporate structure and institutional knowledge and strategy are not the same as a person knowing something. I'm sure there are people in MS who know more than anyone. but together I suspect they're far far less than the sum of their parts.

    I remember trying to open word-97 .doc files in office 2002.

    Surely MS knows how to read it's own file format? Nope, well, not as well as star/sun/open/libreoffice (whichever one it was at the time).

    I'm sure someone in MS was saying "lets do a bit more work on backwards compatibility"; I'm pretty sure that person was immediately tied to the desk with a giant annoying ribbon and forced to become familiar with a whole box of paperclip suppositories.

    Oh hang on, that was decades ago, they've grown so much since then .

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Yes, because Microsoft knows stuff in Windows that can be utilized in WINE. And maybe open sourcing a few parts to add to it. We are talking about WINE, an open source project where Microsoft doesn't have the entire say. We can check and correct or reject, unlike whatever happens in closed source Windows.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    This was talked about even 15 years ago. The os does not make them much money over office and azure so it was thought they might get out of the os game. I mean they do a fair amount on other peoples mobile oses.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Open shell is a helpful solution that replaces some of the problems in the windows UI at least for the start menu.

    OpenShell github

    It's pretty easy to customize most things.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    There's a reason I'm not looking at Windows for anything other than my main desktop anymore. My family used to run 4 or 5 Windows computers. Will likely be two moving forward, and would be zero if my wife and I didnt have programs that just do not have a Linux equivalent.

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