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[–] 124 points 11 months ago

Another professor who has received funds from Epstein and defended him was Robert Trivers, a Rutgers University biologist who received about $40,000 from Epstein to study the link between knee symmetry and sprinting ability. Trivers questioned how bad the charges are, noting that girls mature earlier than used to be the case. "By the time they're 14 or 15, they're like grown women were 60 years ago, so I don't see these acts as so heinous," he told Reuters.

The black bar biologist delivering that November keynote

"miss chatting with you" indeed you fucking pervert.

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  • [–] 165 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    PSA, 2 security vendors on VirusTotal flag this site as phishing and 1 as suspicious. It might literally just be because it’s a Gmail clone and nothing else, but I don’t know enough to evaluate it further.

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  • [–] 42 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    This site doesn’t ask for any permissions or logins. It’s perfectly safe.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah. Unless there is a major security flaw in your browser, no website can do any harm to you or your computer if you just dont give it any information.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Go to site any.run and visit the site there. You may have to create a free account though.

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    It's easy to see why there was so much resistance to getting these released. It's not just Trump in there, it's every fucker, all chatting away pleasantly even when he'd already done one jail sentence for sex trafficking. Even Noam fucking Chomsky is cosying up to him.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Chomsky

    Is it a trait of famous people being a pedophile or what?

    Maybe it explains a lot of resilient cybercrime websites about child porn I think it's really expensive to have a forum online while a lot of actors are attacking you like cyber activists, black hat hackers, and law enforcement agencies

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    If you're a quasi-rich sociopathic pedophile, it pays dividends to get richer, to be able to avoid consequences.

    That's a general rule in capitalism and maybe society in general. If there's a way to receive less consequences for shitty acts, those that want to do shitty acts will flock to that path.

    The shitty acts then becomes a pseudo-reward for power, and community forms around that.

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  • [–] 41 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    Wait what

    Sorry, I'm drunk, this is a meme or something right

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  • [–] 91 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    No it’s real. It’s basically just the ability to view the emails that were released by congress in the format of looking at the gmail website, including sorting by contact and stuff. Pretty cool

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  • [–] 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    I have been told this is real.

    Edit:

    oh shit https://jmail.world/

    Edit{2}:

    oh shit

    The Epstein Emails Are Hinting at a Bombshell Revelation About Trump

    Even with the feds closing in on him, Epstein was seemingly auditioning for a chance to throw the president to the wolves.

    https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a69442235/epstein-emails-trump-hints/

    Edit{3}:

    This is Ghislaine Maxwells personal email address: gmax1@ellmax.com

    Edit{4}:

    This seems legit!

    Jessica Cadwell
    Aug 06, 2009, 9:51 AM
    Brad – In your answers to ROGS, you list Milton Center for girls as facility that Jane Doe attended
    11
    Jeffrey Epstein
    Aug 11, 2009, 3:01 PM
    Privileged - Redacted
    J
    Jessica Cadwell <████████████████████>
    toJeffrey Epstein jeevacation@gmail.com
    Aug 11, 2009 7:00 PM

    Privileged - Redacted

    Jessica Cadwell, CP, FRP
    Certified Paralegal
    Florida Registered Paralegal
    BURMAN CRITTON LUTTIER & COLEMAN, LLP
    515 N. Flagler Drive
    Suite #400
    West Palm Beach, FL 33401
    Tel: █████████ / Fax: █████████
    Email: ████████████████████

    Edit{5}:

    This deserves its own post. I googled "Milton Center For Girls", check this out-

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article306928786.html

    "Girls confined to ‘box’ if they fought sex abuse at FL youth center, suit says"

    Of multiple employees accused of sexual abuse at a now-closed Florida juvenile justice center, a lawsuit brought by five survivors says one staffer had girls who objected to abuse, or threatened to expose it, confined to what was nicknamed the “box.” The small, cement room was used as a form of punishment at the former Milton Girls Juvenile Residential Facility in Santa Rosa County, located in the Florida Panhandle, the lawsuit says.

    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article306928786.html#storylink=cpy
    Edit{6}:

    Yo there be some serious shit in these files my brothers and sisters in christ.

    Edit{7}:

    No shit, the Saudis are involved:

    Sultan Bin Sulayem
    Sep 03, 2009, 7:05 AM
    An interesting piece to read before you start your weekend. Guest Post by Jim Krane: Dubai, Not Obam

    Jeffrey Epstein
    toSultan Bin Sulayem
    Sep 03, 2009 11:18 AM

    she is your second biggest fan... iam the first. i sell dubai, to its detractors.

    Sultan Bin Sulayem
    Sultan Bin Sulayem

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  • [–] 35 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Proof, should it ever be needed, that a compete lack of understanding of punctuation and grammar should never stand in the way of your dreams of being a multi-millionaire kiddy diddler.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah I noticed that, too. Reading the emails is a jarring experience, the dude writes like a middle schooler.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago

    Epstein used other email addresses too, including jeeitunes @ gmail. Will other mailboxes be integrated to this one or will they be separated?

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    [–] 25 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    The thread revealing that Epstein was employing Al Seckel to do SEO and bury negative info about him online (while complaining about what Seckel was charging him for the service) is interesting. Seckel referring to editing Wikipedia in Epstein's favor as "we hacked the site" earns eye rolls.

    https://jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_022226

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    Crappy source, but the info in this article seems legit and is a crazy read.

    Presumably Seckel met Epstein through his sort-of wife, Isabel Maxwell — the sister of alleged Epstein enabler Ghislaine Maxwell — whom he had married in 2007, while apparently still married to someone else.

    “I was never able to establish to my satisfaction that Seckel had died.” Though he didn’t devote a lot of time to the question, he continued, “I always had my suspicions that maybe he faked his own death; it would have been in character.” Others who knew Seckel also have their doubts that he’s dead and, in fact, it’s difficult to verify; authorities in France did not respond to inquiries.

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  • [–] 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (15 children)

    There's a 'meme' trend of local ML tinkerers messing with the Epstein files as a dataset: https://huggingface.co/datasets/tensonaut/EPSTEIN_FILES_20K/

    See: text embeddings https://huggingface.co/datasets/svetfm/epstein-files-nov11-25-house-post-ocr-embeddings


    Edit: Now I’m pondering making an “EpsteinGPT” finetune myself. Maybe like a 4B-14B model for the sole purpose of Epstein RAG? Or a 32B responding in the style of the Epstein email text, just because.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Just imagine having to explain being in possession of a handmade "EpsteinGPT" to someone 🤣🤣

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (4 children)

    Meme finetunes are nothing new.

    As an example, there are DPO datasets with positive/negative examples intended to train LLMs to respond politely and helpfully (as opposed to the negative response). There are some that include toxic comments plucked from the web as negative examples.

    And the immediate community thought was "...What if I reversed them?"

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    haha just imaging people showing off their collections, "here's my Mr. Rogers chatbot, and Thomas Jefferson, and even Luffy from One Piece! And uh...oh yeah over here we have EpsteinGPT for when I, I mean for if, um...its for lulz ok?! Don't look at me like that, where are you going?!"

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    It's literally "this one is my fursona. This one won't refuse BDSM, but its not as eloquent. Oh, this one is lobotimized but really creative." I kid you not. Here is an example, and note that is one of 115 uploads from one account:

    https://huggingface.co/Mawdistical/RAWMAW-70B?not-for-all-audiences=true

    And I love that madness. It feels like the old internet. In fact, furries and horny roleplayers have made some good code contributions to the space.


    Early on, there were a few 'character' finetunes or more generic ones like 'talk like a pirate' or 'talk only in emojiis.' But as local models got more advanced, they got so good at adopting personas that the finetuning focused more on writing 'style' and storytelling than emulating specific characters. For example, one trained specifically to stick to the role of a dungeonmaster: https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames/Nova-70B-Llama-3.3

    Or this one, where you can look at the datasets and see the anime 'style' they're trying to massage in: https://huggingface.co/zerofata/GLM-4.5-Iceblink-106B-A12B

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    We need more of this.

    Not data hidden in some file.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Instead of em dashes, it's full of extra spaces before and after each period and extra period.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    I dunno what the 'writing style' would end up as. The bulk of the text seems to be formatted like this:

    ...
    10. Is Epstein cooperating with federal suit against Bear Stearns hedge fund managers Ralph Cioffi
    and Matthew Tannin? Will he testify in their cases?
    
    11. Mr Epstein was deposed on this week, on Thursday. Is it true that he answered almost every
    question by invoking his Fifth Amendment rights?
    
    12. Defense attorney Brad Evans has filed a motion to freeze Mr Epstein’s assets. Has Mr.
    Epstein moved his money from the US offshore or abroad, or does he intend to, in order to
    protect his assets from possible damage claims?
    
    13. What did Mr. Epstein do during his work release program while serving time. Reports have
    said he engaged in “scientific research.” If so, what was he researching?
    ...
    
    Response
    
    "That's because it isn't, and everyone here
    (apparently save one) is rational and objective enough
    to understand that. Physical phenomena, and
    phenomena in general, are
    
    ultimately perceptual in nature and subject to
    observational replication - that's why they call
    physics an empirical science. But consciousness is
    not.
    
    Consciousness cannot be objectively, replicably
    observed. Its putative physical correlates, including
    ...
    
    Bill Clinton identified in lawsuit against his former friend and
    pedophile Jeffrey Epstein who had 'regular' orgies at his Caribbean
    compound that the former president visited multiple times
    
    e The former president was friends with Jeffrey Epstein, a financier who was arrested
    in 2008 for soliciting underage prostitutes
    
    e Anew lawsuit has revealed how Clinton took multiple trips to Epstein's private island
    where he 'kept young women as sex slaves'
    
    e Clinton was also apparently friends with a woman who collected naked pictures of
    underage girls for Epstein to choose from
    
    e He hasn't cut ties with that woman, however, and invited her to Chelsea's wedding
    
    e Comes as friends now fear that if Hillary Clinton runs for president in 2016, all of
    their family's old scandals will be brought to the forefront
    
    e Epstein has a host of famous friends including Prince Andrew who stayed at his New
    
    York mansion AFTER his arrest
    By Daily Mail Reporter
    Published: 09:06 EST, 19 March 2014 | Updated: 21:10 EST, 5 January 2015
    

    I'd have to generate prompt/response wrappers too. But it would definitely bring up Trump and Clinton randomly, heh.

    ...There are automated metrics to rank English text by reading level, 'quality' and such. I guess it could be filtered to most 'interesting' emails and reformatted.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    This is interesting. Do you have any thoughts on why someone would want to utilize the epstein data for ML? Like, what's the point, in your opinion? Just lulz? Or, something else?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    Lulz.

    It’s an interesting coding exercise, though. Trying to (for example) OCR all the documents, or generate a relations graph between the documents or concepts, is a great into to language modeling (which is not prompt engineering, like most seem to think).

    If you’re like a reporter or something, it’s also the obvious way to comb through the documents looking for clues to actually make headlines. I dunno what techniques they use at big outlets, though.

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  • Use the search feature for "Donald Trump."

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    I wanted to play uncharted but instead wasted an hour checking out the first 8 pages

    https://fedia.io/m/hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se/t/3042904/-/comment/13127741

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

    It's fucked up, init?

    I mean, ANYWHERE you look you find shit like

    """

    From: J [jeevacation@gmail.com] Sent: 5/30/2019 9:34:38 PM To: Michael Wolff Subject: Re: maybe as a favor to trump. in exchange for yemen and iran support. . smells doesnt it? On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 5:33 PM Michael Wolff wrote: So MBS was paying him off? Why? Ideas? On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 5:29 PM J jeevacation@gmail.com wrote: is it a coincidence that the russian that bought the house in palm beach and knows all , is the same guy that sold a painting last year to mbs for 450 million dollars. that was only worth 1. 5m? please note

    """

    I wonder who that Russian is. Shouldn't be too hard to figure it out.

    Trumps fingerprints are everywhere.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Saudi Crown Prince. Trump defended his ordering the murder and dismemberment of a Washington Post journalist just this week.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Dmitry Rybolovlev is the Russian oligarch who sold the painting "Salvator Mundi" to Mohammed bin Salman for $450 million in 2017. He also bought a Palm Springs mansion from Trump in 2008 for $30 million dollars over it's appraised value. The same mansion both Trump and Epstein coveted in 2004.
    There's an article that goes into more detail here. It's fairly dismissive of the whole conspiracy, but I'm not so sure.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    NO! NO NO NO!

    NO way man.

    Look, I'm an artist and art aficionado, I'm an artficionado, I've seen more or less all of Da Vinci's original works. I remember the morning I saw an article about that painting being sold, "newly discovered so and so!". Even before I looked at it alarm bells went off, SCAM. SCAM SCAM SCAM.

    And I look at the painting, and it's a fucking travesty. There is ZERO chance Da Vinci painted that. Look at that stupid goofy fucking face. That orb. What the fuck is that? Maybe they "improved" on some student's of his home-work and passed it off as a Da Vinci, the whole thing was such a fucking fraud from day one, and I was AMAZED nobody questioned it-

    Until they did. And surprise surprise, there was some shady shit going down, hundreds of millions of dollars at stake, the art business is such a fucking black money laundering market it's not even funny. How do you know if something is worth $450 million? If someone paid $450 million dollars for it. Pretty inflation safe.

    Jesus christ, I should write an article about that alone.

    Thanks for bringing my attention to the matter hahahah!

    Edit: Here's something to think about- if they had pulled off the Paris heist and gotten away, who would be the buyer of that merch?

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    What if this release is Epstein's dead man switch. It's from his brother.

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Not nearly damning enough. This is all heavily redacted. The purpose of a kill switch is to spill the beans, and that would have been done the week after he died. This is something else. Not the "whole files" for sure.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Trump blowing bubba is pretty damning, but you're right. I imagine the pics with the girls on his lap or video of similar things would be included. Ghislaine getting that special "prison" treatment might mean she was the one that could trigger it.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    Look, you wanna know what I really think? Probably not, but here goes, I think "bubba" is either a sex doll, or some statue, or some dumb shit like that, and Trump trying to fit in with the crowd pretended to suck it off for comedic effect.

    That's where my mind goes. Let's get it fucking straight that Trump is a pedophile child rapist, I am just trying to actually figure it out, like one of those psychic detectives in TV shows.

    I've been around, I know how people work. I know what they talk about, and the more I read these fucking emails, the more I realize just how banal it all is. These aren't criminal masterminds. They're foot-folk, lesser operatives. Assets. They sure don't speak like intelligence, but we know intelligence is most certainly involved in the widest sense of the geo-operative sense. It's pretty insane, J talks openly about Trump getting kickbacks for some Saudi/Jemen op or whatever, and this is WAY back.

    It's just... And remember, all of this shit is massively redacted. You see it too, right? I have been wondering- the redacted letters, they don't do

    JIM = XXXXXXXXX
    TRUNK = XXXXXXXXX
    JEFF = XXXXXXXXX

    They do

    is XXX there?

    No. Also, XXXXX left for NY.

    I'm thinking, that's odd, maybe they "redacted" just letter by letter, so you know the length of the name being "redacted".

    I don't know, I may be way off in conspiracy theory and way too drunk, high, and methed out to make sense of it, but as far as I am concerned, the official story is already way off in conspiracy theory.

    Expose these fucks.

    <3

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    Wouldn't the emails from "Jeffrey E." be in the Sent Items folder instead of the outbox? Totally unbelievable. Gee, I hope someone got fired for that blunder.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago*

    Would make a perfectly unhinged addition to GTA6 if it didn't add another year to release!

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    HOLY SHIT! That one's a doozy! That's talking directly about the real purpose behind diddler island. It's so much more sinister than pedophilia- I know that's a bitter pill to swallow, but their machinations are global, like a fucking cabal.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago
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    Lol they had to go with Jmail because they couldn't use Email.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    wow I feel like im epstein himself! cool!

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    Now tell me again I'm crazy when I say EVERYONE is in on it, even the alleged resistance. They are all just pro's farming us NPC's. The way Trump is sucking off Mamdami right now...sorry, but he is fake too, no doubt.

    There are no good guys left.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Why does politics in the United States feels like a national scale theater? I am not using the word "theater" to mock america's political system, its "theater" in its literal absolute sense. Feels fake and programmed, does not feel natural, 99% politicians feels like actors/pretenders playing good vs bad role. Even the timing is suspicious.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Because it is. Politics in all democracies is that way, the US is just letting the mask slip a little.

    It's always been ruling class vs. the rest of us. Who the ruling class are changes and the means of oppression changes but the structure of rulers oppressing those beneath them has been constant all the way back to neolithic humans.

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  • [+] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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    I figured it would be about a month after Mamdani was actually mayor before leftists would turn on him. But maybe I underestimated the need of leftists to be against anyone with power that's sympathetic towards them?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Dude, after the 1000th fucking time being disappointed and betrayed, I am not buying anything. There's no such thing as honest politicians, we should just focus on economically undermining ALL power. Humans should not have any control over each other.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Dude, we gotta live in a society and we have to have a government. It seems it doesn't matter what the government does (Mandani isn't even mayor yet) you just want to be a rebel without a clue. You've probably lived a life of privilege so you don't need to worry about real world problems.

    Whatever, you do you. But for us peasants that actually need a government, Mandani isn't in the wrong for not burning everything down.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    we have to have a government

    Citation needed. I completely disagree.

    This reminds me of Always Sunny in Philadelphia. We don't need to pick someone to "be in charge" to get shit done.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    If we don't have a government, Russia or China will give us one.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    You think having a government offers any form of protection against aggressive militarism?

    If anything, it makes wars and invasions more appealing - if the infrastructure of control and oppression, the police, the military, the courts, etc. are all there, all they need to do is seize those levers of power.

    If that infrastructure does not exist and a population is hostile to your attempts to impose it, you would effectively stand no chance against a determined resistance. There are no major military targets, no leaders to assassinate, no positions of power to leverage. They would need to keep boots on the ground to maintain power. And those soldiers, while constantly stationed in hostile territory, can't do anything else and would constantly find themselves under attack by decentralized militia forces - there would be very little hope for holding such territory, and as soon as the occupying force left, anarchy, and therefore peace and order, could once again be restored.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I have seen practicaly every politician turn out to be bought out, child.

    My life of privilege: staring at a wall and crying, being told my ideas are stupid and to shut up, standing in the cold while I wait to be institutionalized for bullshit reasons, treated for something I didn't have. Practicaly no healthcare (can't diagnose a chronic cough all my life, gave a generic asthma diagnosis at 29 years of age), I never wanted to ask parents for anything, because I knew they were broke, and got a neurological issue that's ruining your life? Nah, bad character. People here don't have neurological (or mental) issues.

    Literally everything I have with me, including this phone, I had to buy from a blue colar job I'm doing.

    I'm privileged to do what? Get exploited until the day I die? Watch my family succumb slowly? Pay for private healthcare that does nothing for me? (tried that too).

    All humans are predators.

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