What actually happened.
🇺🇸: "Did you just invade Eastern Ukraine with your army?"
🇷🇺: "It's not a war, it's a special military operation."
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A very similar exchange happened in Syria in 2018.
According to sources in Wagner, cited by news media as well as the Department of Defense, U.S. forces were in constant contact with the official Russian liaison officer posted in Deir ez-Zor throughout the engagement, and only opened fire after they had received assurances that no regular Russian troops were in action or at risk. The clashes lasted four hours and saw more than 100 Syrian pro-government fighters killed, with one SDF fighter injured, according to the coalition. No U.S. troops were reported killed or wounded.
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What the USA should've done after "Little Green Men" invaded eastern Ukraine in 2014.
US: "Did you just invade eastern Ukraine with your army?"
Russia: "No."
*One day later.*
Russia: "Did you just bomb my troops in eastern Ukraine?"
US: "I thought you didn't have troops there."
I get the joke but the whole schtick was that Russia was defending Russian-speakers in the Donbas. Bombing them would have strengthened their case.
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We were all over here waiting for a Conoco Fields part 2
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this happened once in syria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham
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I remember that time. Putin said that the Russian Army had not invaded Ukraine, not that there weren't Russian troops there. There were plenty of Russian military members who took a leave of absence to help restore democracy in Ukraine after the Euromaidan riots threatened the elected government into resigning. That was the official Russian position.
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So....
Is the US supposed to be the world police or not?
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Interestingly no country gave this correct responde. Or even took a passing interest.
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I'd say go for it, even with Putin's threat of nukes.
With how much Russia's oligarchy plundered their own war-chest over the years, to the point where they had to rely on Iran for weapons, I actually question if any of Russia's nukes actually work.
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And deny a symmetrical warfare environment to develop the next generation of drones? Never!
Raytheon's index price wasn't even $70 in 2014!
Like the US will go to war with Russia, it's become a vassel state as of late.
this is a reference to the Battle of Conoco Fields.
This would only happen if it was in Israel's interest.
It's worth noting that in the 1990's while the rest of easter EUR, particularly PO, RO, and CZ tweaked their economies and societies in whatever way was necessary at the time in order to get their asses into NATO and the EU, Ukraine spent 30 years dawdling, unsure if they wanted to face east or west. Shame on them for that. They created their own monster by being irresolute, unlike the Poles and Romanians who also HATE Russia, know history, in some respects share a common history with all of eastern EUR, and see very clearly. A fair amount of UKR's indecision was due to Russian meddling in politics there, but by the time UKR woke the fuck up about Russia's nature and intentions it was almost too late. That timeline takes us to the year 2022, approximately. UKR is still corrupt as fuck, nobody knows who can be trusted and they are putting tremendous effort into reforming their legal system, politics and military structures to conform with EU/NATO norms. If they had been this decided (instead of divided) back in 2014, they'd have been in the EU AND NATO by now. They are paying the price for their dawdling and indecision, fuelled mainly by post-soviet corruption mentality which they are rueing and repenting of almost too late..
I say this as someone who actually supports Ukraine. But I am not blind to their faults, either.
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