He grew up on a farm in Indiana, the son of a factory worker and eldest of five children. He studied at Liberty, a Christian university founded by the conservative pastor and televangelist Jerry Falwell, and recalls wearing a T-shirt expressing opposition to Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.

Two decades later, Justin Douglas is running for the US Congress – as a Democrat.

He is among around 30 Christian white clergy – pastors, seminary students and other faith leaders – known to be potential Democratic candidates in next year’s midterm elections, including a dozen who are already in the race. While stressing the separation of church and state, many say that on a personal level their faith is calling them into the political arena.

The trend marks a break from a traditional racial divide. Whereas Black pastors who run for office are typically Democrats, their white counterparts are usually Republicans, reflecting the strength of the religious right and the party’s dominance among evangelical voters.

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[–] 28 points 1 year ago

I used to think that religious Trump supporters were also the ones who believe in funding a pastor's private jets. But my take: a lot of religious MAGA just want someone to validate whatever racist stupid ass thoughts come to their mind. May it be politician, pastor or a fucking podcaster.

Religion is just another mechanism.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Obligatory fuck Liberty University. Absolute sham of a college and blight on Virginia.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Religion should never be part of the political debate.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Well I have six thousand years' worth of history for you and you are not going to like it.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I live in Italy and I can safely blame the Roman Catholic church for the cultural backwardness in which my country finds itself. The interference of the church has this as its main purpose, after all only by remaining ignorant one can continue to believe certain nonsense.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, for sure but religion plays a stupid amount of a role in the US compared to other normal western countries. Just look at the Christian Heritage Party of Canada with their grand total of zero seats. Hell, the Conservative Party of Canada doesn't even dip into religion very often and they're also unpopular.

    Your country's broken, mate

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago*

    Calling one of the two major parties in Canada, which almost won the last election if not for its leader fucking up to an insane degree, "unpopular" is certainly a take. Also the current senior part of Germany's ruling coalition is the Christian Democratic Party so... yeah. More broadly, though, you have to realize that Protestantism in US rightwing politics is just a stand-in for white nationalism, while in more anti-clerical Western countries nationalism is the dominant religion with traditional religion mostly a distant second. The GOP isn't a cult because it's religious (they still have a hefty atheist and otherwise non-Protestant support base); it's a cult because rightwing politics are inherently culty, far-right politics even more so. It's not like cannibalizing fellow workers while the owner class bleeds you dry becomes more rational when you're doing it for the German nation instead of Jesus.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Should is not the same word as has.

    should imperative Used as an auxiliary verb, to express a conditional or contingent act or state, or as a supposition of an actual fact; also, to express moral obligation (see shall); e. g.: they should have come last week; if I should go; I should think you could go.

    has verb Third-person singular simple present indicative form of have.

    Your comment doesn't actually address what the inital comment said at all.

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    Oh! So this is why the Dems are throwing trans people under the bus, to attract the clergy. We have to run some better people. The answer to Christian fascism, is not more Christianity.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    There’s a lot of power in holding the “good Christian” title. Clearly. Look around. Perhaps that one is worth wielding again.

    If 30% of the country subscribes to Christian values, maybe we should broadcast those values back to: empathy, socialism, community service etc.

    Use the centuries of brainwashing and existing power structures to reign back in the village idiots? Idk it was working for a while until Christianity became: stave people and hate gays

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I agree 100% and I am a preaching atheist.

    I view religion as an overall negative. But I cannot ignore that for a large minority it is helpful for them. We cannot just throw out the entire religious populace and still expect to win elections. Instead religious Democrats need to take back the image of God. Show that almost all MAGA values are against the teaching of Christ.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    Because fucking Bush was? Give me a fucking break. Their guys are, if elected, going to be Republicans in all but name and the establishment is going to prop them up anyway.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Umm, I kinda understand but still: ick.

    If only I were born somewhere sane. 🙄

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    A lot of people are really mad that trump is gay.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    It makes sense that the clergy are meh on a man raping a child but oh no that's bad about a penis going in a grown man's butthole or mouth. That's their whole schtick.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Trump is The republican party is inconsistent with Christian principles.

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    The clergy can go back to where they came from, the wrong side of history

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Trump is inconsistent with Christian principles in the same way that Jon Brower Minnoch was inconsistent with proper dieting. What the fuck?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Religion has no place in this world.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Eww fuck democrats go independent party

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    [–] 38 points 11 months ago

    They should run as Republicans, the fucking slimes.

    Literally poison to the party, the complete opposite of the change inside the party people are looking for.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago*

    Please don't cost me my rights

    Like ultimately I can stand with them if they worship the Jesus who welcomed eunuchs and prostitutes, and there's something positive if they can see the good in socially progressive issues. Otherwise, if they're just going to say "fuck the queers and women, but not the poor and immigrants" I'd rather they change the republican party.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    If you were duped by that guy, you were either not paying attention or just really stupid. Not the kind I want inserting themselves into decision making. Fuck all the way off, please.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    They think their imaginary friend can make their wishes come true, but chooses not to. They aren’t smart.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (5 children)

    As much as I’d like to agree, there are rational reasons to have religion.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Can we really call it rational reasoning when making decisions about survival and safety under coercion or threat of violence?

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Keep religious types out of the Democratic party. They only bring their problematic views and conservative bullshit with them. The party already has enough problems of their own with turncoats, Republican pandering, and kowtowing to rich lobbyists.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    I forget which republican it was in the 80s that tried raising the alarm about courting the religious right. The essence of what they said was that you couldn't negotiate or compromise with someone who thinks they have god on their side.

    Edit to add (thank you PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone):

    Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
    - Barry Goldwater

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I just never really understood anyone that could sit there and listen to what the cons and Republicans say and do and what their aims are and then think any of that lines up with red letter stuff from "the" bible.

    But I'm thinking a lot of conservative xtians are not really readers, despite all their talk of "the" bible.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I hope their faith guides them but does not control nor blind them.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Easy. Dems being taken over by the enemy. Enjoy voting!

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Inconsistent? I thought he was pretty consistent, really.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    We’re seeing a current administration bastardise faith almost every day.

    Welcome to the politicization of religion since always.

    The racial divide can in part be traced to the mid-1970s when the Internal Revenue Service began removing tax-exempt status from private schools that discriminated by race. Conservative Christian leaders such as Jerry Falwell saw this as federal overreach and seized on abortion as an issue that could be framed in religious and political terms.

    Falwell’s organisation the Moral Majority used abortion as a broader symbol of moral decline alongside feminism, sex education and gay rights.

    How Jesus-like.

    Whereas Carter earned 60% of the white evangelical vote in 1976, fellow Democrat Hillary Clinton gained only a 16% share in 2016. It was a troubling realignment that caught the eye of Doug Pagitt, a pastor and executive director of the progressive Christian group Vote Common Good.

    He said: “That’s not natural. That’s not just a policy change. There was something more significant going on. It’s been a two-sided effort. Republicans have oriented themselves primarily around religious voter identity and Democrats have set aside religious voter identity, including the fact that in 1992 Democrats removed from the voter access file the category of religious identity.”

    This is where Democrats fucked themselves: they have a far stronger claim to Jesus' preachings & could have easily challenged Falwell's hypocrisy.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    Fuck religion.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago

    Too little too late white men.

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Took you this long…? 🤔

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Lefties: *mumbling uncomfortably*

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The Democrats further cozying up with the people who created the environment that spawned Trump is confirming what we already know about them being a right wing party.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (6 children)

    The story says it’s the other way around.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (5 children)

    It doesn't really, it says there's a handful of pastors who are running against the norm. It even lauds a service that connect Christians with non-maga Republicans.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    From Texas and Iowa to Arkansas, faith leaders are wading into politics to counter the rise of Christian nationalism

    I can’t diagram sentences on Lemmy but you get the idea.

    Anyway the point is, where’s the socialists? Where’s the free Palestine left? Why aren’t they making news by running for office? Pull a Mamdani in Oklahoma? South Carolina? Somewhere?

    Is it because there aren’t any? Or what?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    So where's the Mamdani's?

    And as to why there isn't as many, well uh because the Dems/DNC shits on them at every chance and try to sabotage them? It's a pretty different treatment to the arms wide open adoption of cener-rightists that they prefer.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    You’d think the alleged shitting would also generate some press of some sort though.

    I think it’s just because no one who answers that description is running. Yet, anyway.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Who is Omar Fateh?

    It's tiring, people refuse to notice or pay attention to the cases where the DNC/Dems fuck over leftists and instead we get this repeated myth that no leftists ever try to run.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Well I know him, he got press.

    Also local race. What’s the Democratic Farm Labor party? Hey they have ranked choice even. Sounds pretty progressive, compared to, y'know. Other places.

    Any running for federal office? Anywhere?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Honestly, I wonder why they don't actually live by the principles outlined in their book.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The David Frum quote works even if you replace “Democracy” with “Religion.” The only thing they won’t abandon is subjugating and oppressing others.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Gee, ya think?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    "Inconsistent" is quite an understatement.

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