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[–] 57 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

Butbutbut... Trump said NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!!!! How can this be???

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sned in the Kardashian with the Pepsi can

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Totally expected. What would be unexpected is firing at the country itself.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I was told we didn't start a war.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    How could the Iranian's do such a thing! Won’t someone please think of poor Israel who shot first, or the idiotic American president who just wants to drop a nuke to satisfy his ego.

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  • [–] 72 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Sucks for all decent people, but Israel wanted this and America is their bully so...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's funny that you think America isn't pulling the strings from the start.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There's little difference between the two at this point. They are intertwined. Fuck both administrations.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    The people that oppress women and gay people? Good for those people? Jesus, dude... Fuck you.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Get off your stupid high horse, America doesn't get to bomb and decide who gets to be president. In fact, America is opressing people of colour right now so lets bomb them?

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Reports indicate it was a muted response to indicate an intention to deescalate. They had to do something but they didn't go crazy. We'll see, I guess.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I heard they fired six missiles - the same amount the US used - intentionally. Targeted non-civilian locations. Weren’t complete dicks about it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Same thing when trump assassinated soleimani. They rattle a saber a little bit and call it even. Trump announced a ceasefire agreement 3 hours ago so it looks like business as usual.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago
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    What!?!? We can't just randomly fire on other nations without them retaliating? Outrageous!

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  • I did say it wasn't going to be chill over there for very long.

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    So far, reports state “fired at” but come up short of saying “hit”.

    Sounds like air defenses may have intercepted all of them? At least to the extent we can trust reporting at this stage.

    ngl, it’d be more satisfying to read about a successful counterstrike…

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (31 children)

    Why not attack the U.S. directly? There are plenty of coastal bases in the U.S.

    I feel like it would hurt a whole lot more if they were to go after something on U.S. soil...not that I exactly want that. Being bombed at home sounds terrifying.

    Im just curious what the logic was behind this.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Even if they wanted to, how would they accomplish that?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    They do technically have orbital launch capability, which implies they in theory have the capacity to construct an ICBM, even if not with a nuclear warhead necessarily. Granted, the results of such a strike almost certainly would not be worth the costs to them so I've no expectation they'll do such a thing, but they probably could if they wanted to badly enough.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Same way the U.S. flew war planes all the way to Iran.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Perhaps because if they did that, there’s a very high chance trump would nuke them. He’s been itching for a reason to use nukes since his first term, and that would give him the excuse he wants.

    e: I think the fact I got 2 opposing comments (he’d do it without justification and he’d be stopped by the CoC even with justification) might be telling here. He’s a monkey with a machine gun, and who knows if justification would work on others in the chain of command? Perhaps they’d rather not risk that.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    If Trump wants to nuke them, he nukes them. He doesn't need a reason, he is a demented megalomaniac with a cult following. There will be some more finger-waggling in congress and pearl clutching for the midterms after the fact and that's it. So why appease him or try not to upset him?

    Iran probably just thought hitting these targets was easier.

    I fucking hate the world we live in.

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  • [+] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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    You are getting downvoted but i agree with you its obvious they dont really try to hurt the US.

    Even the missiles they did fire, ALL of them were intercepted by US missile defence and not a single person was hurt.

    Its just to show that they hit back a little symbolically.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This seems performative. Only a handful of missiles and apparently Iranian state TV is reporting successful strikes, but I can't find anything reputable that confirms that. Sounds like all missiles were intercepted. Iran gets to show their people that they've responded without risking a true escalation.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That would make sense. I guess from my point of view, I'd be pretty pissed if I was Iran right now. At least 9 of their nuclear scientists were assassinated last week, and now their nuclear sites have been all bombed. That's as good of a declaration of war as youre going to get. But I can understand why they wouldn't want to wage an all put war if they dont think they're prepared for one.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Yeah from the footage I saw in this thread it seems like they were all intercepted by Patriot missiles and if any did hit they did minimal damage. Russia just launched hundreds of drones and missiles into Kyiv. Iran certainly could have done more, so I absolutely agree it’s performative

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The ONLY good point to this would be that it would draw the US public into action. A base in the Middle East got hit? People shrug it off, it's nothing new and doesn't affect them. A naval or army base on the East Coast gets a missile hit? At least if there was disagreement on what to do, we'd be arguing about it. Assuming that Iran can even get that far...

    And to be clear, it's only a good point in that it would wake people up that shit isn't right, and maybe they'd feel threatened enough for their own welfare to do something.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    There will be a "terrorist" attack in the near future. The something with guns during a crowded event. My money is on a 4th of July event shooting. Sadly that's the only way Iran and other poor nations have to fight back. Until Iran and poor nations get nukes they will be taken advantage of. I'm pro Iran nukes simple because them not having them is obviously not working for anyone

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    It's pretty straightforward, they have to do something, but they really don't want a war with the US despite any public comments. An attack that can be directly traced to Iran that even targeted the mainland would be a great way to ensure the US escalates.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Have you tried using logic to answer your question?

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There hasn't been a war on U.S. mainland in 150 years. If a misil hits it it could trigger easily WWIII. Last attack on U.S. was 9/11 and that started multiple wars.

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