Hm, almost like that was the plan the whole time. They can say they tried and aren't as nasty as those Republicans (WHO ARE NOT DEMOCRATS) though right? Democrats fully support fascist policies y'all, they're hoping this admin collapses and affords them a reputation that enables those policies with greater public support.
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And the motherfuckers are killing the hemp industry in bundling it into the minibus. All hemp derived cannabinoid products will be federally illegal once again.
300,000 American jobs will vanish next year because of this bullshit. A very strong and growing industry, adding jobs and around $35 billion (B) to GDP since it's legalization in the 2018 Farm Bill - oddly enough, passed by the same group of fucking shitheels!
Once again, the 'party of small government' is legislating morality.
Notably, there is no guarantee that the Obamacare subsidies will be extended — and no commitment from Republican House leaders to even hold a vote at all on the subsidies.
Then what the fuck was the point? That was Democrats one demand. Either finish what you start or don’t start at all, you cowards.
So millions suffer for nothing, might as well never been a shutdown.
Yeah I was willing to tolerate being thrown to the wolves as a minority here, but everyone who caved can go fuck themselves. I hope they go broke in the retirement community along with every republican who joined them
Notably, it isn't democrats as a whole, just 6 of them and an independent. (I do not count Fetterman as a democrat anymore)
Sadly, one of those spineless POS democrats is my own senator from Illinois. I look forward to him being replaced next election (he supposedly isn't running again).
There may be a way to make lemonade out of these lemons. While there are 3 appropriations bills bundled into this package, most of the rest of the appropriations would be on a continuing resolution until the end of the year, which isn't really a very long time. So, absent some sort of breakthrough with the House, we will be in this same position in January.
If Republicans renege on the December vote, then Democrats can go back to them and say "No, we mean it this time, put back the ACA subsidies or we dont agree to kick the can further. We trusted you once and you lied."
Meanwhile, in this bill there are explicit guarantees for SNAP funding and protections for federal workers during the shutdown. Yes, those things were already law, but it reinforces things if Trump signs a bill in November and then ignores it in January. Those are the things that made this shutdown especially painful, and the current bill's passage will limit the pain Trump can inflict.
Basically, I don't buy into the narrative that Democrats got nothing in exchange. It seems like they got a lot of incremental things, that will help give them leverage when Republicans decide to screw them. In the meantime, Federal workers get back pay to prepare for the next one.
"See, now I'm in a better position, because the next time he wants my lunch money I'll be able to say I already gave him some the other day."
This is a very optimistic view of things. If this is indeed the plan, it still hurt a lot of people for very little, and to bank the strategy on "we'll be able to blame them if they betray us" is ignoring all the other times this has happened with no consequences to the Republicans. And most of that was before the era of Trump opening up the gates. The line used to be "they're saying it out loud" in response to them not being subtle about their goals. Now they're shouting it loudly, and nothing is being done. We're far past "working across the aisle" mentality.
If anyone, politician or private citizen, hasn't figured out that Republicans lie by now then that person is too stupid to function without a caretaker
Seems the Dems establishment is pissed the old guard is dying out and are willing to bring the entire country down with them. Very Trumpian of them.
This wasn’t “the establishment.” This was 8 senators, including one independent, who got cold feet and caved like cowards.
Hell, even Chuck Schumer held his ground.
Here’s the list:
- Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nevada
- Dick Durbin, D-Illinois
- John Fetterman, D-Pennsylvania
- Maggie Hassan, D-New Hampshire
- Tim Kaine, D-Virginia
- Angus King, I-Maine
- Jacky Rosen, D-Nevada
- Jeanne Shaheen, D-New Hampshire
No, schumer planned this. Why do you think all Dem defectors are not up during 2026? Very much planned that way so they can’t be punished
This was certainly centrally planned. There's no way they would be able to coordinate having it be 8 that are not up for re-election without that.
Here’s what occurred. It has been widely assumed that the group of eight mostly centrist Senate Democrats, who have been looking to broker a hollow deal on Republican terms, were freelancing. In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily.
At Thursday’s meeting, they told their caucus colleagues that they now had ten votes to reopen the government in exchange for no real Republican concessions. At that, much of the rest of the caucus went ballistic, and some of the supposed ten said that, in fact, they were not willing to vote for any such deal.
The leaders of the proposed Democratic cave-in, Sens. Maggie Hassan and Jeanne Shaheen, both of New Hampshire, and Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, then backed down. Only after that did Schumer go public with his proposal to reopen the government in exchange for a one-year extension of the ACA subsidies, along with a bipartisan commission to figure out a long-term solution.
Informed observers tell me that the obvious compromise deal, which would allow each side to claim a partial victory, is either a shorter extension of the ACA subsidies for less than a year, or an extention with a partial cut at higher incomes. It remains to be seen whether both sides can get to yes.
The mystery is why Schumer keeps flirting with capitulation in exchange for nothing. Democrats have the political momentum, Republicans are divided, and a majority of voters blame Republicans for the shutdown. Schumer himself faces a likely primary challenge for his own Senate seat. He is even more vulnerable if he presides over a Democratic capitulation.
https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/
This was reporting from last Thursday. Of course today after following through with the capitulation we find they secured no concessions, just a promise of a vote on the issue on December.
Chuck Schumer is either a moron who can't keep his senators together, or a traitor who planned a scheme that he knew you would fall for.
The rot goes a lot deeper than those 8.
Let's all start demanding Chuck Schumer's resignation as loudly as we demand the release of the Epstein files.
Still, the deal was good enough for seven Senate Democrats and one independent: Sens. Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev., Dick Durbin, D-Ill., John Fetterman, D-Pa., Maggie Hassan, D-N.H., Tim Kaine, D-Va., Angus King, I-Maine, Jackie Rosen, D-Nev., and Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H.
Crazy that Kaine is still in office...
Being Clinton's VP pick should have told voters from his state he's not on the people's side. Or that he was one of our shitty DNC chairs, specifically the one after Obama refused to name one after winning 08.
His name doesn't come up much, but we'd be better off with him out of office. He's a big reason shit is so fucked.
Oh good, now it really was for nothing. Thanks Fetterman et al
I don't think it's Fetterman.
I mean, yes, him too. But why do you assume that this wasn't a deal that Schumer and friends worked out, where a bunch of people who are retiring or in safe districts or suffering from brain damage agree to take the fall?
- Dick Durbin is the minority whip
- Schumer didn't want to do the shutdown in the first place
- I now don't hear anyone in Democratic leadership out yelling about how these assholes betrayed everyone, like they did when Mamdani won the primary or Bernie participated in one. It's all just a suspicious silence, and oh well, thoughts and prayers and let's move on.
This isn't 8 deluded idiots standing on idiotic principle.
It's a carefully stage-managed operation to scuttle the fight for even a few crumbs of healthcare.
Notice how every single one of these motherfuckers is either retiring or not up for re-election any time soon. They even rigged it so Schumer could vote no and take a little of the recent heat off himself.
The rot in the Democrat party goes all the way to the core. There's no reforming it.
Certainly seems that Schumer was behind this despite pretending not to be:
https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/
That isn't negotiation, it's stress-induced capitulation.
It's fucking collaboration is what it is.
Millions of Americans myself included suffer for nothing. This why I say fuck both parties.
None of the senators are up for reflection next year, and all of the representatives are retiring next year. None of them will face a consequence for this
it's stress-induced capitulation.
Bold of you to take these assholes at their word.
They did this on purpose with malice aforethought to scuttle the fight for even a little consideration for healthcare costs drowning the 99%.
The Democrat party works for the donor class, exactly like their friends in the GOP. It couldn't be any clearer.
Distraction ... endless distraction.
That is what America politics has become. It's been like that a little in the past but now it will be the norm.
Endless nonsense and crisis .... just crisis after crisis.
The US government has basically fallen. It doesn't work as intended anymore and does the opposite.
I'm actually surprised Schumer isn't among the spinless capitulators, this time.
It’s my understanding they chose democrats who weren’t up for reelection or were retiring so it wouldn’t matter.
It seems he was behind them, just too cowardly to put his name to it publicly:
https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/


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