George Carlin said it, and it's true. Rights don't exist. We've gotten to the level where things that used to seem protected are now violated, and pointing to the laws that say they are rights doesn't do anything. Once checks and balances disappeared, the ones in control could do whatever they want, especially when everyone else is still trying to use the rules that aren't being acknowledged or enforced to "fight" back.
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This take isn't even controversial, it's just true. Same with the privileges temporarily given by the supreme court, same when they called people "essential workers" when they meant "expendable human capital".
They don't have a "good" president, only "less evil".
They don't mind if the "less" turns right every day, and it's so bad they'll accept someone who'll bomb and invade some other country again if they could go back to how things were, which is getting away with abhorent shit abroad and claiming to be the 'greatest country' ever.
Anyone who wants to be made president should on no account be allowed to do the job
what about Vermin Supreme? He's a tyrant that we can trust, and we should let him run our lives.
He'll give every single citizen a free pony!
Anything that relies upon the labor of another person is a privilege that can be revoked at their whim.
This is quite literally all of human history. The state rules based on one simple truth, they are the sole arbiters of violence. Might makes right kinda thing. When few rule over many, humans in power will always want more. And them taking away your freedom is their last bastion when they already have everything.
A call for human rights that can't be taken away by the first idiot is not anarchism, it's the most basic common sense and logic upon which a good society should be built.
And if we want to have actual rights, then we must build a system in which no one has the power to take them away to begin with.
So, they had me up till here. But what I think they're trying to describe is a dual-power relationship between the state and labor, by which the powers of the state are checked by the power of working people. That's an idealistic vision of the future, but it isn't a proven strategy. Just the opposite - its a strategy riddled with more failures than successes.
A call for human rights that can’t be taken away by the first idiot is not anarchism
The belief that we can build a system to self-perpetuate civil rights is at the heart of the anarchist ideology.
But the promise of an immaculate statutory framework that denies any individual or coalition power is a false one. Power is a consequence of social relationships and control of physical capital by individuals. There is no established structure that can prevent a cartel of insiders from seizing control of critical infrastructure. They don't even have to be particularly powerful. Any sufficiently motivated Houthi brigade can shut down the Suez Canal. Any sufficiently popular social media platform can derail a positive social movement (witness what happened to Occupy Wall Street or BLM or the Hong Kong Democracy protests or the disintegration of the Yugoslavian government).
Civil Rights can only ever be aspirational in a world where a local monopoly on violence undoes in days what a community spent generations building.
Any sufficiently popular social media platform can derail a positive social movement (witness what happened to [...] the disintegration of the Yugoslavian government)
6/25/1991 Janša and Tuđman blocked Milošević on Twitter, never forget 😞🙏
But what I think they’re trying to describe is a dual-power relationship between the state and labor
They didn't mention labor, they are talking about power as in the power the government or a president has
But the promise of an immaculate statutory framework that denies any individual or coalition power is a false one.
I don't picture anarchism as a system where a statutory framework is put in place
Power is a consequence of social relationships and control of physical capital by individuals.
I don't like much this generalization, you are describing the power over control of physical capital, in our scenario the power is granted through law and established through police
There is no established structure that can prevent a cartel of insiders from seizing control of critical infrastructure.
Something we can be sure neither established or non-established structure can't change is the truth, nobody can change the fact that 1+1=2, they can only lie about it for some time
Civil Rights can only ever be aspirational in a world where a local monopoly on violence undoes in days what a community spent generations building.
It took humans millions or years to learn how to hold a stick, perhaps it just take more time and effort
Anarchist Take On LW front page
Links to blahaj.zone
What am I missing here?
You can do a lot with a credit card and a hardware store.
Break it down to build it up. It's the only way. But nothing is infallible.
While I agree that human rights should be written in the constitution of the country, you can always change constitution.
Besides, Trump is already ignoring the law so I don't know how you would fix the rights issue.
Laws aren't the solution, dear. They are, arguably, a major tool of the problem.
What is then?
Noticing shit libs coming here arguing against anarchism because we dont try to stop problems they have, that it is not proven we would have, by making them worse.
Pointing out potential pitfalls by saying 'you could have a lesser version of this problem that a greater version of plays a large role in defining our whole shit' and then just not engaging with any response because they're just here to justify shit they know is vile and doesn't even work for the thing they're using to justify it.
Its like the whole 'what about violence?' 'why is this violence happening?' 'totally unjustified, appeared from nowhere, has no cause, you can only kill it or accept it, not prevent it. Except by violence.' 'so it violates thermodynamics?' 'No it's just people being shitty!' Argument. Super fucking done and not looking to have it again in literally every thread on left politics.
And the weird double standard, where were reckless and bad unless we have pre-planned every aspect of a system that is fundamentally about including and nurturing agency rather than imposing a predetermined thing, and done so in a way that solves literally all their problems while making it so they never have to think, they must oppose us and we're just dreaming impossible dreams.
Is there a way other than blocking users to stop seeing their bullshit? Like a thread block? Or a thread server block?
Is there a way other than blocking users to stop seeing their bullshit?
Logging off and touching grass.
But this is the prevailing zeitgeist. You're on Lemmy. Lemmy is online almost exclusively in western states. The Online West is a product of the western world. And the western world is rife with this ideology.
You're going to keep running into this shit for the same reason you're going to keep finding yourself stuck in car traffic, sucking down air pollution, and surrounded by shitty fast food.
Lemmy. Does not. matter.
LW has like 3k regular real users max. Nothing here matters.
You matter, and you're here, so lemmy matters
Keep telling yourself that.
If you want to change the world you have to go and actually hang out with the unwashed masses
my mass is unwashed as I'm writing this
People don't like being told the truth.
I like lemmy, it's fun when people aren't acting like they're in some political struggle.
I just think it's delusional to think you're doing any meaningful praxis here. Especially since half the active posters seem so averse to hanging out with average workers.
What about lemmy gave you the impression it was filled with washed masses?
"unwashed masses"
sir, madame? this is lemmy. its built by the unwashed masses.
Lemmy. Does not. matter.
Feels like I'm reading a recap of "Twitter isn't Real" circa 2016.
And then people began to manipulate social media in earnest, and what was posted on these sites became frighteningly prophetic relative to what would happen IRL.
A "twitter" is a bird, and it's a well established fact that birds aren't real.
Twitter in 2016: 3.25e6 monthly active users
Lemmy.world: 1.45e4 monthly users, many of which appear to be reposting bots or duplicates.
Twitter in 2016 had politicians and companies and shit on it, lemmy has the sort of dregs that think what linux distro you use matters.
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