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Stephen Miller's wife threatens political commentator with deportation during debate (www.salon.com)
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Katie Miller made a veiled threat to deport a political commentator during a heated debate about New York mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani on Thursday.

The wife of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller appeared on a panel of commentators on “Piers Morgan Uncensored.” While arguing with The Young Turks co-creator Cenk Uygur, the debate quickly turned ugly. The shouting match devolved into Miller questioning the validity of Uygur’s U.S. citizenship application.

Miller accused Uygur of “racist, bigoted rhetoric” around Israel and Uygur countered that Miller was a habitual liar. When Cenk floated the idea that Israel got a “pass” on committing genocide against Palestinians, Miller wondered if the Trump administration might need to take a closer look at his recently granted citizenship.

Miller cut in. “You better check your citizenship application and make sure everything is correct,” she said. “Because you’ll be just like Ilhan Omar.”

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[–] 214 points 1 year ago (21 children)

I guess this is the kind of person you have to be to want to marry Stephen Miller.

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  • [–] 79 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Idk why, but for some reason until this moment I just assumed Stephen Miller was single, because of, you know, literally everything about him

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Looking at that lady she kind suits him though. Their faces are kind of similar. Maybe that's just because they are both mean and angry lol

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Didn't she also run off with Elon Musk?

    Once again, shitbirds of a feather...

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    i think it was scott bessent's wife. scott allegedly punch musk, and musk was claiming his SONs did it.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    SONs

    Is that his male children or one of their names?

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    • [–] 161 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "My arguments are shit, so I'll just have to resort to violence. Except I'm too chicken-shit for that too, so I'll see if I can't get someone else to hurt you on my behalf."

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I thought this had some real "my dad can beat up YOUR dad!" energy.

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    • [–] 116 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    “Because you’ll be just like Ilhan Omar.”

    Elected to Congress?

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    • [–] 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Eva Braun 2.0 over here really ought to consider following her predecessor's footsteps.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    one thing hitler had (and miller don't) is charisma. i really don't know enough about ww2/nazi leadership, but the googles say Alfred Rosenberg was the least charismatic and on that quality alone i'd note the equivalency.

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    • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    “Because you’ll be just like Ilhan Omar.”

    Uh...wut? Anyone have some context for this bit of crazy?

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Oh shes a progressive Muslim in congress, the right has claimed she's an illegal immigrant for years

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just like Obama's birth certificate. People love pretending they're not racist when they're obviously racist.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Many of those same people will admit to it when they think it's a safe audience.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I’ve been mistaken for “safe” plenty of times. They still don’t self-identify as racist.

    They’ll say things like “the blacks are just genetically more violent, and we need to protect ourselves by keeping them out of our town”, but that’s not “racist” because they’re “just telling the facts” that the libs try to force society to ignore.

    They think it’s equivalent to saying women tend to have less facial hair, which isn’t sexist, and we’re insisting that it is because we’re “woke” and living in denial because of that ideology.

    When they do admit to being racist, its tongue in cheek to make fun of their accusers, like if I were to call myself a “communist socialist liberal extremist”.

    God it feels icky steelmanning them, but it’s important to understand your enemy.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Something that's easily proven, too. Why haven't they done so? 🤔

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Because it's far too easy to point out that Melania lied on her citizenship application, and she would be deported under that idea, too.

    Not that Trump would mind. It would enable him to start fucking his daughter, or Laura Loomer.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    It would enable him to start fucking his daughter

    I don't think that Melania's presence stateside has anything to do with the legality of Trump having sex with his daughter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_incest_in_the_United_States

    In all but two states (and the special case of Ohio, which "targets only parental figures"),[1] incest is criminalized between consenting adults. In New Jersey and Rhode Island, incest between consenting adults (16 or over for Rhode Island, 18 or over for New Jersey) is not a criminal offense, though marriage is not allowed in either state. New Jersey also increases the severity of underage sex offenses by a degree if they are also incestuous, and also criminalizes incest with 16-17 year olds (the normal age of consent in New Jersey is 16). Ohio allows incest between consenting adults only when one party is not a parental figure (see table below) to the other.

    So, that'd work in Rhode Island or New Jersey, as long as they don't marry, but I don't think that the public in either of those two states is too keen on Trump.

    EDIT: For context, note that I'm assuming that ubergeek is referencing this:

    He’s previously called her hot, saying she had the “best body” and speaking on The View even said “if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.”

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    • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why is Stephen Miller's wife given air time? Who the fuck cares what she thinks?

    If a News agency can't get ahold of a scientist for an interview are they going to talk to the scientist's spouse? "The head of the fire department is busy with the wildfires so we asked their date from last week about the plan moving forward..."

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Giving her air time is just another distraction from the Epstein Files and the fact that Project 25 is still going on… remember when Drumpf said he didn’t even know Miller?!?!

    SANE, critical thinking Americans remember! The administration is nothing but blatant liars full of distractions, and protecting each other while being pedofiles stealing money from tax payers!

    I legit am a server and made over $2200 this paycheck but only took home a little over $1600… wtf!

    IF THE GOVT IS SHUTDOWN WHY THE FUCK AM I PAYING TAXES AND HOW THE FUCK YOU GONNA TAKE THAT MUCH FROM ME?!?! (Let alone that much in taxes, thought cash tips weren’t taxed… FUCKING LIES).

    FUCK AMERICA! SHOW US THE EPSTEIN FILES!!! Ps FUCK ICE!

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    • [–] [S] 89 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Why do people keep giving her air time?

    Shouldn't you be busy stealing free housing from our troops?

    Or fucking Elon Musk while the mayonnaise matador sobs and watches from the foot of the bed?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    Why do people keep giving her air time?

    Young Turks does progressive political advocacy. If she's going to do probably-politically-counterproductive stuff like this on air, I suppose I'd probably give her time too.

    I think a better question is why Stephen Miller has his wife off doing interviews like this.

    EDIT: Man, professionally, she's even done high-level communications, too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Miller

    Miller served as a deputy press secretary under U.S. President Donald Trump at the United States Department of Homeland Security from 2017 to 2019. She was the communications director for Vice President Mike Pence from 2020 to 2021 and acted as his press secretary from 2019 to 2020.

    Miller was an advisor and spokesperson for the Department of Government Efficiency from January to May 2025, when she departed DOGE to work for Elon Musk in the private sector.

    Maybe I'd blame Stephen less and her more.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    LOL

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Can't wait for that page to say "cause of death: firing squad" once people get hungry enough

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "shot in the back by ICE"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    i would prefer "shot by catapult" in nearly all cases when i read about shooting. it's like not having your parachute open when skydiving. it's rather enjoyable before you realize the chute doesn't work, and your last moments can be doing something fun as hell. i mean, that's if you're at peace with yourself and the world. i imagine it being quite terrifying otherwise but hey, you reap what you sow (oh deer gods you reap what you sow)

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Man, professionally, she's even done high-level communications, too.

    The qualifications for that under Trump seem to be competence in hair spray and make-up. So, it’s not like you should expect much from her.

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    • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The crazy starts around 8 min

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    • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    You have immediately lost the debate when you attack a person instead of their argument.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Ad hominem.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Too many people online love to use "ad hominem" as a defense when someone uses language like: "you're stupid and here is why..."

    Not saying that's what's done here. It's not. I just feel like the only time I see people use "logical fallacies" like this is incorrectly.

    Ad hominem is NOT when someone insults someone they are arguing with. It's when they use the insult or personal attack as a REASON for why something is wrong.

    The extreme example being: "Hitler says being a vegetarian is good. But Hitler was a fucking Nazi."

    It's implying the character flaws of the individual are associated with the subject of debate. It's often used in tandem with the Strawman Fallacy to both create doubt in the character of your opponent as well as mischaracterize what your opponent is arguing so it is easily defeated.

    She constantly strawmans here by invoking any criticism towards Israel as being instead on "Jews". Which, maybe worked two years ago. But Zionist are sniffing their own farts at this point. The only people that believe that anymore are other Zionist.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    Definition is: (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

    I am not an English professor.

    The argument was: "When Cenk floated the idea that Israel got a “pass” on committing genocide against Palestinians, Miller wondered if the Trump administration might need to take a closer look at his recently granted citizenship."

    The argument being that the administration was turning a blind eye or even complicit in the genocide. The response was a threat but also a personal attack as in their opinion or argument was invalid because of their ethnicity, citizenship, etc. To me, that is a reaction that was directed against the person instead of the position they were maintaining.

    "Ad hominem is NOT when someone insults someone they are arguing with. It’s when they use the insult or personal attack as a REASON for why something is wrong."

    I still think the reaction of threatening someone based on ethnicity/citizenship was their REASON why this person's argument is invalid. But I am assuming that is what they were implying with the threat.

    I assume that the threat of deportation was the answer to the argument, as it implies that argument is invalid due to the actual person presenting the argument and not an actual answer or debate. But I do see how it's more a subtle interpretation. They don't actually say it, they just imply that the argument is wrong based on a personal attack.

    I think what you're saying is it should have been more like Miller responded with a direct personal attack as the reason for why the argument was wrong. But for me it seems like that was implied as the reason.
    Maybe it's a stretch ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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    [–] 30 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    She still fucking Elon?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Vance is now fucking Kirk’s “widow”.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He's just helping her convert to Christianity!

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    • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the U.S."

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Context, for those not familiar:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilsa%2C_She_Wolf_of_the_SS

    Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS is a 1975 Canadian nazisploitation film about a sadistic and sexually voracious Nazi prison camp commandant.

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    • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Copy of Frau Goebbels proving she is a fuck nut.

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    [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    "How dare you make me look stupid for supporting a corrupt regime!?"

    I swear, the guillotines can't come fast enough for these fuckers.

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    [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    One might argue that the way her and her fuckwad husband wield their power is treasonous, with all the attendant consequences.

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    [–] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wow, she looks like a bruiser. It's funny cos he looks like a weasely little bastard. Just two absolutely fucking hideous slabs of meat, made uglier by their permanently sneering expressions and made impossible to stand by their eternally cruel actions.

    May the happy couple get what they deserve 🤞

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Her husband PeeWee Himmler is so repellant that the when MAGA entered the White House in 2020, the word was that he was a virgin who had never been on a date.

    She apparently comes from a wealthy family, who reportedly uses the n-word at the dinner table routinely. She was a White House staffer when they met, and bonded over their love of Zyklon B.

    She will definitely order her husband Wormtongue to investigate Cenk.

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    • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How to say I am loosing the debate

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