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[–] 83 points 1 year ago (34 children)

I wonder if it is biologically possible to grow a cannabis-tomato hybrid. Like a tomacco, but it's actually a cannato.

Cannatoes could be used to make pizza into an edible, which might be too much for mere human minds to comprehend.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Just infuse the oil to make the dough.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    THC oil in the dough, cannatoe-based sauce with dried ground weed added as a garnish... might just send you straight to God.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm definitely not an expert, but I thought the biggest issue with baked edibles were the temps you cooked them at might degrade THC. Isn't it impossible to get the dough crispy at temps THC stays stable at?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Pot brownies are popular in the United States, which are baked at 180 degrees Celsius. I think the idea is to protect the components that contain THC, i.e. the crust and sauce.

    For that reason, thin-crust pizzas like New York-style pizza are out. They are too thin and would expose the THC to high temperatures. Neapolitan pizza is also out because there is nothing protecting the cannato sauce from the 400-degree wood-fired oven. That leaves thick-crust pan pizzas.

    Chicago-style pizza is a possibility despite the fact that the sauce is on top of the cheese, because there is so much of it that it becomes soupy. It might be possible to pour ordinary tomato sauce on top of the cannato sauce to protect it. Conversely, Detroit-style pizza does not have very much sauce at all so it's out.

    I think the best contender is a Pizza Hut-style pan pizza, which has a thick crust and an edge-to-edge layer of cheese on top of it, which I think would do a good job protecting the delicate sauce underneath.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You know.....you didn't have to say that! Now I'm hungry for, and excited to try a pizza edible that doesn't exist!

    Great. Now I'm hungry AND sober...

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I don't know specifically, but generally hybrids need to be in the same genus. Tomatoes are nightshades and I think cannabis is in the bamboo side of things.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hear me out: cannabis/bamboo hybrid. You just pluck a stalk and the whole thing is a smokable, natural pipe, ready to go.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    You are correct, they need to be related. A fun fact most don't know (you probably do though):

    Tomatoes are related to potatoes!

    The both come from the same nightshade family: Solanaceae.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    tomatoes and cannabis are both brassica it's fine

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Instructions unclear... I crossed them and got a really thc heavy ketchup instead.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    so you can make tomacco because the roots are what make the nicotine. swap the roots of a tomato plant and a tobacco plant and you can get tomacco (nicotine tomatoes) and nicotine-free tobacco.

    the THC (and minor cannabinoids) in cannabis is in the flowers, but i don't know if the THC is made there. we don't smoke tobacco roots to my knowledge, but this is about the extent of my education on the subject.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    The chemical production actually occurs in the trichomes themselves, so you need unfertilized female flowers,, or at least sugar leaves, to (eventually) produce THC. Although the plant doesnt directly produce THC, it produces things like CBGa and THCa which get broken down through a process called decarboxylation (removing the carboxyl group from a molecule and replacing it with hydrogen.) into CGB and THC. The most common way to decarb it is with heat through smoking, vaping or cooking but some decarboxylation also happens naturally over time during the curing process after harvest.

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3165946/

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11050509/

    I was unfortunately in the hospital for a week or so when these were starting to flower and they got really stressed out from lack of water but they came out alright in the end.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    does I forget: doesn't THC "degrade" into CBG? is CBGA part of that chemical process?

    it's been so long since i thought about cannabinoids (aside from "limonene and pinene pleez") that i can't remember much beyond their effects.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I added THCa to my original post, but the decarboyxlation process is how the various acids (the A at the end) in the plant break down, yeah. I wouldn't really call it degrading, but THC can degrade over time if exposed to oxygen or light, or stored somewhere too dry. They sell these little saltwater packet humidor things from some company called Boveda. After drying and curing, you throw the pack in a mason jar along with your flower and then you can store it for up to a year without losing much quality.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, that’s what happens when you buy tomato plants off Terry in your local.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've seen this before, those are ornamental tomato plants.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    From this far away, looks like you can expect plenty of mangoes in the summer.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oooo, that looks like headaches, not highs.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    Those are cannabis plants, not tomatoes. Although botanically speaking cannabis and tomatoes are basically cousins, and have very similar growth requirements. So if you "accidentally" planted cannabis and fed it thinking you planted tomatoes then it would do quite well.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    ...so ppl gotta try smoking tomatoes?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I think they contain some nicotine, no?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They contain the mildly to moderately toxic alkaloid tomatine lol, you're gonna become a medical case study if you smoke the leaves.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    This is from wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt, but you'd have to ingest over half a kilogram to get toxic and not lethal doses so as long as you smoke the tomato leaves in moderation, test away!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah it's not super well researched, but ingestion and inhalation dosages can be extremely different. Hence you'd likely be the subject of a case study as it would be a significant addition to the medical literature on tomatine toxicity in humans.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    While the Joke is that that’s definitely not a tomato plant…

    Apparently tomato’s can do something like this if you fertilize with the wrong formula (I.e. high nitrogen).

    Tried growing some tomatoes myself for the first time this year… gave em the same fertilizer I was giving everything else, and they exploded with green growth into a giant bush, but never produced a single tomato. A few flowers would bloom, it’d get some small green ones, then they’d just fall right off the bush a day latter.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Hello, Doctor Greenthumb? Paging Doctor Greenthumb!"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Whaaat?? "Tomatoes" don't grow that tall... Do they??

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Depends on strain and growing conditions, but they can get over 20ft/6m tall

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