California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, told MSNBC that he plans to file suit Monday against the Trump administration to roll back the National Guard deployment, which he called “an illegal act, an immoral act, an unconstitutional act.”

Trump has cited a legal provision that allows him to mobilize federal service members when there is “a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.”

Trump threatens to arrest Newsom: “I would do it if I were Tom. I think it’s great,” Trump said, referencing Tom Homan, the administration’s border czar, who warned that anyone, including public officials, would be arrested if they obstructed federal immigration enforcement. “Come after me, arrest me. Let’s just get it over with, tough guy,” Newsom said.

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[–] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is Trump actively trying to start his new term where he left off the last term? Rising prices, a recession, people raging in the streets, and a deadly pandemic.

Seems like that’s his goal.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Literally yes. I mean, his goal, is to feel like a big boy who can wield an army to silence dissent. The goal of the wealthy around him is to fully dismantle the country so only they are left to pick up the pieces.

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    [–] 82 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    So...how close are we to that point where other countries open their doors to us under asylum laws? I mean, Trump's siccing the military on people and it's not even 6 months into his term yet.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    There exist countries that have already offered safe haven/asylum to US'ians... Especially to LGBTQ.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    Links, please? I haven't seen anything suggesting that, yet.

    I'm probably OK. I'm straight. I'm White. Though I am agnostic and don't buy the State Religion behind Project 2025.

    My wife, however, is Black, Bisexual, and Pagan, four strikes, and now I'm a race traitor for having married her, so there's my strike.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Just to point out it doesn't matter how white you are if you say something they don't agree with.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Or do something they don't agree with. Like marrying a Black bisexual pagan woman.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I mean, take a good look at Luigi and how hard they're trying to blame him. You don't get much more white than Italian. Maybe Scottish, but it's close.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, I actually think it is very possible to be more white than Italians—they weren’t even considered white in America until the last 100 years or so.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes, this. I'm quite sure if I ventured back to the place where I grew up I could find more than a few people that would consider Italians as non-white.

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    From a non- paywall article about Hannah Kreager:

    Her pending claim for protection in the Great White North could be a landmark case, the American believes.

    'I'm here in Canada with a terrific lawyer taking up my unprecedented case: seeking asylum from the United States of America on the grounds of violation of human rights,' she posted online.

    'My case is a precedent-setting one, and if successful, could make asylum for trans people in the U.S. possible.'

    I hope she's successful. The Safe Third Country agreement needs to be ended. Until that time, the path to claiming refuge status from the US will be extremely expensive and onerous and not likely to be successful. The canadian government needs to be called out on their hypocrisy and refusal to 'rock the boat' by ending it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't know if the Safe Third Country agreement would apply to this, since the US wouldn't be the Third Country. Wouldn't that only apply if she went from somewhere else in the world to the US and then to Canada. She's from the US, not from somewhere else coming to Canada via the US. I think if it did she would've been deported immediately.

    But yeah ending the Safe Third Country agreement needs to be a priority. They're sending people to a gulag down there FFS, it's definitely not a safe third country for asylum seekers by any stretch of the imagination.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Thanks for these. They don't make it clear that Canada is a valid destination for LGBTQ+ folks to seek asylum from, but they do indicate that there is discussion in Canada. Have to see how the referenced cases go, though.

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    My google-fu hasn't up to this point. In fact, I get lots of results saying that Americans are not welcome as asylum seekers in my googling. Your single link only shows places that take American immigrants, not places welcoming American refugees. In fact, New Zealand is suffering from a Conservative-inflicted recession that is making things difficult for immigrants and natives alike, and Australia has some serious restrictions on immigrants (a close friend of mine did that route and barely made the cut). And Canada? Despite a victory for the Liberal Party and 'elbows up' regarding American rhetoric, they still have lots of people angry about how immigration has been handled.

    If you actually have links to help get victimised people out of the USA, maybe instead of 'why don't u google it urself', maybe post those links. That's FAR more helpful than the whole 'go do it urself!' response. :)

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  • I think there is a gross overestimation of the support that is available. I've seen a lot of bad articles copying and pasting different parts of immigration policy and programs but without understanding how it works as a whole.

    Like, Canada has a website about helping LGBTQI+ refugees ( https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/about-refugee-system/2slgbtqi-plus.html ) and it includes partnerships with groups like Rainbow Railroad who can refer people in need of resettlement to the refugee process.

    But if you only look at that and fail to consider the safe third country agreement, you're giving false hope.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Happening already. US trans people are coming to Canada and applying for asylum now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
  • No one has been granted refugee status on the grounds yet, so it's not possible to say. People are immigrating by other means.

    The Safe Third Country agreement is a major barrier and must be dropped, but that's not going to happen: despite all the warm and fuzzy talk the give has had during the previous trump admin and the current, the gov continues to fight challenges to the agreement in court: https://ccrweb.ca/en/safe-third-country

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  • [–] 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I know we've been crossing a lot of lines over the last several months but this seems like a big one.

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    They might abandon him when people start shooting back. That's what it will take

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're right, it's a cult by every measure. I just think there are levels. There's the "I will praise Trump as he strangles me to death" type people. But there are also the "I vote R because I like guns" or "I'm against abortion." A lot of people do end up voting on a single issue or a select few. I think being shot at might make those people reconsider.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Fascism at work.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Any marine who follows this order is a traitor to the United States.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just leave a box of red crayons on the ground and you'll be safe.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If the Marines want to uphold their oaths, they'll start fighting the cops.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I haven't met a marine that doesn't support Trump, soooo...

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The saying “once in a lifetime events” needs to be changed to “well 5mins ago”

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    The mass shootings will begin.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Coming soon to a city near you.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    We are so very fucked

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    They do this without controversy and yet when I, Antifa President John Antifa, deploy the HRT Super Soldiers, suddenly antifa is the villains?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I believe I'll get criticized for this, but here I go.

    Public protests need to disappear and go underground. The news won't report accurately, at least not in America, and protests are EXACTLY what Trump et.al. are wanting.

    Get out your Tor browsers everyone and get organized. We need leaders and a plan.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    So here's my main critique: tor browsers and getting organised, as you put it, is not an alternative. The only way of organising at scale at the moment is protest. They could be better executed, they could be more effective, they should be refined for sure. But nixing protest because it's what the enemy expects is like fighting with both arms tied behind your back for fear of damaging your opponent.
    They don't want protests, they're just expecting them, because it's all that can be done at scale.
    Resistance should include private communication, small operations, protests and everything in between. ALL levers should be pulled, including mass protest.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Well I disagree. I believe it's not what they expect, it's what they want. They are being deliberately provocative to get a reaction, so they may respond. Which they are currently doing.

    Not only that, but we are no longer talking about important policy and legal attacks on freedom.

    Not only that, but any looting or violence will be amplified, and any police or military abuses will be diminished (by the media). The rubber bullet impact photos aren't disseminated, the looting of an apple store is, or a shoe store, or any fire.

    The targeted feedback we receive (through Lemmy and other social media) makes us feel like we're accomplishing something, but it's the social change equivalent of junk food. Like carbon credits, it's not addressing the problem, it just makes us feel better.

    Only my opinion, of course.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So the answer is not to react? Then they will just continue to do fascist shit. It's not a win for them if we resist. It's just not.

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