Is there any good alternative to myAnimeList or would you recommend I go back to the spreadsheet?

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[–] 128 points 1 year ago (9 children)

We and our 938 partners value your privacy

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    “Babe, but it feels better without a condom.”

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Unfortunately this is just the state of the web in the modern day. Virtually every site exists to serve you ads while simultaneously collecting your data and selling it to their "partners" in exchange for their content.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I would love to see any actual verifiable positive ROI numbers directly linked to or resultant from the money a company spent to purchase these targeted ads.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    That's the neat part, you can't, because the companies that run ad networks (e.g. Google and Meta) intentionally make the consumer behaviours market as opaque as possible. As the market maker, they have an economic incentive to withold information from their customers, because any mistakes from market participants due to information assymetries directly translate to profit surplus for the market maker.

    We have long since moved on from simple pay per click/view pricing models to pay per "impression," the definition of which is not clear even to the companies that purchase the ads.

    And in a somewhat ironic twist, one of the motivations for such extensive surveillance is the desire to quantify such ROIs. Statistics and analytics such as click through and conversion rates all require tracking user behaviour across vast networks.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I guess what I'm thinking is this scenario: if a person never had a gmail account or used any google products ever, google still makes bank off that person by using third-party cookies & scripts, cross-site tracking, fingerprinting, Ad ID / Device ID sync, et al. How can you not call that data theft when you don't use their products?

    Now I'm sure somewhere in the google products TOS, it states you will bend over and spread your cheeks, but for the person that doesn't use said company's products, this seems a bit different.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I've always thought (anecdotally - no substantiating evidence) that advertising on the internet, which is much different that advertising in a magazine or billboard, is probably a loss leader or close to it. The real value for the product manufacturer is the data they steal from you. In all honesty, I can't think of a product or service I've purchased that was based on an advertisement. 99.999% of the time, I know what I need or have a really good idea, and will research it on the internet extensively, depending on value, and make my purchase based on my research. It also could be that I have made it a concerted effort to never see any online advertisements on my network, so maybe I am not as affected as those who see ads in every square inch of their monitor every day, like they're on a porn site.

    Network so tight I call it virgin. /s

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It also could be that I have made it a concerted effort to never see any online advertisements on my network.

    Well ya. This is like saying you don't get why guns are dangerous and then mentioning how you have bullet proof windows.

    The whole scheme breaks apart if you block the constant images trying to make you buy things. I see it affecting others, no one in their right mind would buy a 100k car if it wasn't for ads imo.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    But the whole purpose of stealing your data is to better serve you ads. So I’m not seeing anywhere in your argument that shows actual profit.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Well, it wasn't so much an argument as it was a muse. I'm not a marketing guru and again, I am expert at nothing.I do run several businesses, but word of mouth is my advertisement.

    The purpose of an advertisement, say in a magazine or on a billboard, is to sell you goods or services. Those goods or services are '$Price A' which is cost to manufacture, taxes/applicable fees, plus overhead and profit. On the internet, yet another element is added and a very invasive element: Data Collection & Brokering. So, without even selling you goods or services, the company in question is making bonus bucks from collecting your data and using it/selling/trading it. So, on the internet, the company in question is double dipping IMHO. Once for enticing you to buy their goods or services, and the most nefarious IMHO, collecting your data via all manner of sneaky ways. So, it seems to me, whether or not they sell you a product or service, they're already making bank on a global scale, and not affording you due compensation for creating the data in the first place. Creating takes labor and labor is compensated with $$. If it means billions of dollars to the company in question, then it's worth a lot to little ol' me. Even if it were just clicking a mouse or typing on a keyboard, your data has high value, and they know it.

    I call this data theft. It is the very same offense if I walked into the CEO's office of a fore mentioned corporation, and picked up a paper weight, stuck it in my pocket, and walked out the door. It's data theft. Now it may be the bowl talking so feel free to spool me right up if I have err'd in my thought process.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I think the AI bubble is actually a deeper, more structural data bubble. There isn't actually a case for profitability, they're just doing it out of investor demands and inertia and because That's Just How We Do Things.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Not only that, but literally the only reason we even have these popups now is because of recent European laws

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I mean the alternative is that they simply sell it without your consent.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    i mean, they still do that anyway, for all we know the "disagree" button does fuck all. but at least now we know that they do it, hooray?

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago

    Because you are the product.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The 938 partners who really really Really REALLY fucking hate you

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    We value your privacy, that's why we'll sell your data to anyone that is willing to pay us money. We will sell it to literally a thousand different companies which will mix and match and resell you data to thousands more

    It so so so so extremely angers me that companies ALWAYS FUCKING LIE.

    We value your privacy

    FUCK YOU YOU DO NOT

    We're pissing u on your back and we tell you that you're getting a refreshing shower, please thank us for this insult!

    Just be fucking honest that you don't give a shit, money is your only bottom line, and you would rape and murder my mother if you even thought it would make you money. Fuck all of you

    I want a law that says that companies cannot behave like this. You cannot say "your call is important to us" every 2 minutes while I've been waiting on the phone for three hours to be able to return your piece of shit product that arrived broken, but you were too cheap to invest in basic customer support.

    I want marketing and advertising outlawed. Completely. It's allowed for companies to lay out their products, but you're not. allowed. to. lie. No "we're the best!" Fuck you, you're the absolute worst. A company like Comcast should be forbidden from claiming they're good at anything as they suck at everything and only manage to continue to exist because of fucking lying through their teeth with their marketing.

    these sort of shit popups is just the next logical step that starts literally with the first words being an absolute lie

    Fuck this shit

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We value your privacy

    And this is why we are going to violate it in every way possible!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Livechart.me ?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    To give you a better personalized experience™ of course!

    Just block the partners, should still work. All of the anime pirating sites are riddled with ads.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    All of the anime pirating sites are riddled with ads.

    As if the commercial sites were any better...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    There are commercial anime sites?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I assume. I mean, they do make money somehow, and it's probably not by getting pirated.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Well, the usual ones make money via ads but the content is all pirated. I think fan translations for subs are not unusual either?

    Edit: seems like Crunchyroll, Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Disney+ & co. are some legal streamers. Of course, like with other shows, each one has only a few.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Anilist & Kitsu. (Kitsu is OpenSource, I think)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    hehe... you TOO can become a partner! We're having a special! Anyone willing to pay for partnership access coincidentally gets an unrelated trove of personal data!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Turn on the 'Cookie notices' filter lists in Ublock Origin.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    They took harem anime's to heart?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    dw about it, your data will be safe amongst their friends! MyAnimeList and their 938 closest friends :)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    MyPartnerList

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Switch to Anilist ^^ Many FOSS Apps available :)

    Switching is super easy

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    Thanks for highlighting that.

    The same way IMDB has https://imdbapi.dev/ or https://www.omdbapi.com/ (which I did use for a bit) is there an equivalent, namely MyAnimeList DB or API?

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    sounds like a good anime title

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    I've been using https://kitsu.app/ for over 11 years.

    That said, it's a bit janky. There are some minor bugs that will likely never get fixed because it's on a shoestring budget.

    You can always import/export your library as XML though, so you can go back and forth between Kitsu and MAL.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    I use Showly (without any account) from F-Droid for movies and series

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Unfortunate there's not a good substitute for MyAnimeList, I'm really not a fan of the website design.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    it doesn't need that. use Kitsu or selfhost using NeoDB.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Don't install anything that needs to invade your privacy so massively.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    use stremio + Torrentio and optionally a paid Real Debrid subscription. You can actually stream from torrent found from thepiratebay or other torrent sites.

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