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[–] 79 points 1 year ago (1 child)

This guy's my fucking hero

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    God damn. Man knows how to tell people what's on his mind that's for sure.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (26 children)

    Honestly we could use more of this. Not necessarily bad stuff, but communication at minimum. Fuck ICE, fuck the police for allowing terrorists and backing them up. ACAB.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    Oh not throwing shade, it was a masterclass of expressing dissatisfaction and gave the ice agents exactly the amount of respect they deserve.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Vulgarity, yelling and screaming actually were very useful in that situation and were perfect for the intended outcome, to be intimidating. I think that was the perfect choice for expressing how he felt and to get the result he wanted.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think that your attitude towards communication is based off of an assumption that academic centric linguistics are inherently intellectually superior and appropriate for all social situations, and that by having this view you view yourself as intellectually superior to others who do not subscribe to that manner of speaking at all times, and enjoy passing judgement on others as inferior to you because they use the word fuck.

    This is a narrow view of linguistics, social dynamics, politics and debate.

    The primary goal of that man was to get those ICE agents away from those Hispanic looking people and to leave. These agents are unlikely to have their mind changed with calm, reasonable debate. In fact, these types of people view that style of communication as weak, and would have not been intimidated or moved to leave.

    So, in that regard, yes, that was a master class of communication, because he used his words, and only his words, to get two armed people to not kidnap people off of the streets and leave.

    A calm, intellectual debate would not have worked.

    I suggest that you consider how you attitude is, frankly, a little classist, and narrow in scope.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    We aren't trying to change their minds. We want them to fucking leave.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It appeares that they left...

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    If these dudes cared about facts they wouldn't be participating in ICE. There's no changing their minds. Best option is for them to go home and dome themselves when they realize how worthless they are and that no one decent will ever care about them.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I want every ICE agent to go home and cry themselves to sleep because everyone is mean to them, and dread going to work in the morning because everyone fucking hates them. They can choose to quit whenever they want and be happier afterwards.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    That would be a fascinating thing to see, this guy as the 'bad cop' and then someone next to him being the 'good cop' saying things like 'You have all this training and experience. There are people out there who need your help. You could be out there helping them, saving families instead of tearing them apart. You could be someone's hero instead of the henchmen of a villain who uses you as a disposable, nameless distraction from his own crimes.' or something like that.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Lmao, yeah, you nailed the guy filming this as a blue-haired land whale. Spot on, buddy. Lol, man.

    So, since you're in your armchair, telling Americans to simultaneously not let this happen in the first place and also providing zero actual answer on what to do, why don't you give real suggestions, coach? I mean, obviously, if you're not a dumbfuck, you could easily lay out a multi-step plan for anyone to follow. Preferably, one that doesn't start in 2016, because the rest of us live in reality.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Your heart is broken easily. I'd toughen up.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nope. Not me. But you're getting bodied in these comments and you're still trying, I don't know whether it's sad or impressive.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Let's see. "It breaks my heart" a saying meaning "this makes me really sad" so, if my comment makes you really sad, I stand by my statement, you need to toughen up. So yes, I am sure. You're trying sooo hard to make something out of nothing. You're trying so hard to make it seem like I'm somehow the idiot in this exchange when what I said made total sense, you just don't want it to make sense, because you're feeling really insecure about how wrong you are in all this.

    Wrap it up buttercup.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It seems to be the only language these "agents" understand. Part of resisting a fascist regime is demoralizing their followers where they start to lose confidence in their choices and leaders direction.

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    As somebody that has always been diplomatic in conflict resolution.: I feel that talking is too late. They don't care, they have an agenda, they will carry it out.

    You can talk out a problem with a rational thinking person, but you can't reason with the people that think what they are doing is OK.

    There was a newer study that has identified a personality trait. It identifies the type of person that supports hairbrained ideas from a person they'd normally not agree with if they feel they are winning against the enemy.

    So you have Christians who should denounce Trump for what he is and has done, but they feel empowered because he's helping the fight the enemy.

    The whole American I got mine mentality personified To change their mind means they are losing.

    My old inlaws grew up in wartime Germany, they describe what we see today as exactly how Hitler swayed the country. It wasn't till other countries stepped in with violence that the German populartion came to their senses. Talking to your neighbour about them supporting the SS changed noones mind ( that believed the Jews were the enemy.)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I get what you're saying and theoretically you're right in some contexts but I would just like to say that I think you're completely wrong here.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago

    This guy for the fucking governor. 100/10

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  • [–] 101 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Imagine what could be if just 10% of the democrats had half of this guys courage and determination?

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Also imagine what could be if the non-voting masses had NOT enabled and empowered the fascists and bigots AGAIN.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You're fighting a fight you lost last year. Everyone could have done more to prevent this and there's a lot of blame to go around. Either invent time travel or deal with the present as it is.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Oh, so it's like school shootings, then!
    "Now is not the time to talk about gun control!"

    We still seem to see these idiots - who let a rabid badger into everybody's house - smugly fingering their purity asshole ring, seemingly going: "Come on, Democrats... dazzle me! Pick up the badger with your bare hands... as I hurl feces at you!"

    It is still a valid point to make, to point out the goddamned useless deadweights, for anybody who might still be influenced by these useless stunted narcissists who deliberately act as if they can't tell the difference between shit and Shine-o-la.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago

    The whole world thanks the non voting masses for lifting that viel off the USofA. They at least have some conscience unlike the rest of the arrogant losers in the left and right.

    US is now killing and disappearing people inside their own borders, instead of half way across the world. And even their allies are waking up to distance themselves from the trainwreck it has become. You can blame trump and non voters all you want but it was building up for decades.

    Thank you for your service mfs.

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    I salute the man holding this camera. A true American, protecting and standing up for the disenfranchised

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago

    This man is a hero. We should all be doing this.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    Fucking rats, taking orders from a pedophile rapist.

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    Absolute fucking hero 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Que se chinguen a su puta madre malparidos de verga

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    Now that's what a fucking legend sounds like, you tell those piss weak excuses for men exactly how much they're pathetic cowards.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    insert Simpsons that's how you stand up to bullies meme

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Wow, I don't think I could keep up such a brutal rant as long as he did, that was fantastic.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That’s a lotta 1A

    Is there a minimum required distance from these guys, where it makes your lawyer’s job harder if you get too close even if not touching?

    And is profanity OK & any volume? Maybe jurisdiction dependent. IDK when they slap the “disorderly” stuff on you.

    Think I recall middle finger to police was protected speech at some point, IDK maybe somebody knows this stuff. Obviously every American should feel comfortable protesting generally, just curious about finer details (can protest longer when not in jail)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You have to tread lightly around fighting words. If you are inciting violence you can get arrested. Having said that, I'm sure your average Ice Agent is not a constitutional scholar.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Wow, thank you. Super interesting. (Only knew the term)

    So, perhaps if the protest from the video had happened in 1942, it would have been illegal, but perhaps today it was okay. Only referring to the speech and not the volume or proximity.

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    If they’re going to keep doing signing bonuses they should add on enough classes for them to become constitutional scholars. Happily pay for that

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I feel like he got too close at the very end there... until then I think it was a healthy distance?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    & it was also slightly chasey too wasn’t it?

    We don’t want protestors shot over a few inches when it’s (presumably or arguably) equally effective two steps back

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    [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Holy fucking shit I loved that!

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Fuck right off dude, these videos help people feel less afraid of ICE and it's probably more than you're doing anyway

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Im not doing anything.

    Oh shit, we got ourselves an armchair liberal! Hey everybody, this guy has all the answers! Tell me, oh great sage, how can I perform time travel to stop you looking like a moron?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Instead of calling that person a moron, a cunt, a racist, a homophobe, a bigot, you could have explained to him the issues that he wasnt seeing it. You could have led him to resources that gave him a more well rounded picture of what was happening.

    Those comments were there. They never got responses.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is either deeply cynical and disingenuous and you are an ICE apologist, or you're an absolute coward and moron, take your pick. I guess it could be all of the above, actually.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've kept scrolling through this post and you seem to have the answers. Where are you from?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Reading bennyboy blabber on reminds me of:

    "nowadays, everybody wanna talk like they got somethin' to say

    But nothin' comes out when the move their lips, just a bunch of gibberish"

    This bitch is lecturing on like they got the world's problems all solved. Where's all your solutions, bennybitch?

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