Proud American Walks Her Pet

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[–] 54 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Deceptichum is being a counterproductive dick in the comments, but this picture is not gore or even technically NSFW. The prisoner on the floor is not dead and no nudity is visible. This is an image from the US prison in Abu Ghraib during the Iraq War. The US committed many war crimes there. Some of the other images from Abu Ghraib are fully NSFW. You should still look it up and learn that history.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Man, seeing the American torturers happy, smiling as they pose with their victims is horrifying. I can understand if they felt it was necessary, but they clearly take joy in torturing people. That's so fucked up. The torturers deserve life in prison

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

    Make sure you vote for your favorite Blackwater mercenary Graham Platner:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nisour_Square_massacre

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-dark-truth-about-blackwater/

    https://www.ilawjournals.com/blackwater-the-major-crimes-of-the-most-famous-american-pmcs/

    A proud 6-times participant of Iraq and afganistan invasions, and industrial military puppet and war criminal to become your next US senate representing the DNC!

    More detailed comment about his participation in war crimes:

    https://lemmy.world/post/37642684/20066134

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Let’s start with some honesty. The links in that post, the Wikipedia page on the Nisour Square massacre , the Brookings article , and the ILawJournals piece , have nothing to do with Graham Platner. They are about the crimes committed by Blackwater contractors in 2007. Dragging Platner’s name into that is misleading and irresponsible.

    If you actually check reliable sources, here is what they say. Platner served in Iraq as a United States Marine, not as a private contractor. That is an important distinction. Years after leaving the Marines, he worked a short-term security contract in 2018 with Constellis, the company that absorbed what was left of Blackwater. The contract was for the State Department in Kabul, Afghanistan, not Iraq. The New Yorker notes that he served near Abu Ghraib years earlier but was not involved in any of the abuses that happened there. The GQ profile and The American Prospect both report the same thing: Marine service, later contractor work, and no evidence of wrongdoing.

    I understand not liking the military industrial complex. I do not either. I have seen how it chews people up and spits them out while companies make millions. But there is a big difference between criticizing that system and accusing an individual of war crimes he did not commit. That kind of careless attack does not expose corruption. It only spreads misinformation and damages a person’s reputation.

    If we want to have serious conversations about private military contractors and America’s foreign policy failures, then let us have them. But let us do it honestly. Graham Platner did not shoot civilians in Baghdad, and pretending he did only weakens whatever moral argument you are trying to make.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    It's also part of a much larger trend where we tend to blame as many problems on as few individuals as possible. Sure, it simplifies the story in our heads, but it also allows massive corporations who ARE responsible for wrongdoings get away with blaming whoever happens to be sitting at the top seat. And when IF they even get punished at all, it's usually so light that they don't even notice and before long they're the head of another company anyway so its as if it never happened

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    NO! THIS IS COPY PASTE FROM WIKIPEDKIA WITH SOURCES:

    "He attended the Marine Corps School of Infantry, then deployed to Iraq in 2005.[2] He served eight years in the military, including three combat tours in Iraq, in areas including Ramadi and Fallujah.[9] "

    You ARE either LYING or an idiot who can't read! You provided wrong information in your comment. His wikipedia lists his service and employments under THREE SEPARATE DEPLOYMENTS from 2005 until 2007 in Iraq IN FUCKING Ramadi and Fallujah., Just google it and you get the 2004 massacre, then again: Google: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukaradeeb_wedding_party_massacre

    THEN IN 2005 HE DECIDED TO JOIN the same people responsible for those atrocities??

    THEN AGAIN: Just google "Blackwater Ramadi" and you get : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_occupation_of_Ramadi

    Haifa Street helicopter incident (2005) Tal Afar shootings (2005) Basra prison incident (2005) Haditha massacre (2005) Mahmudiyah rape and killings (2006) Ishaqi massacre (2006) Baghdad detainee killings (2006) Hamdania incident (2006) Iraqi bodyguard killing (2006) Iron Triangle Murders (2006) Baghdad airstrike (2007) Nisour Square massacre (2007)

    All those above are his blood money and the career he is proud that he facilitated.

    Then again in 2010, by this time Iraq-war vets were killing themselves left and right from their ptsds and crimes they participated in. He does what? He joins the SAME FUCKING CONTRACTOR: Blackwater: "Constellis: A military-contractor company that evolved from Blackwater under the same founders , AGAIN IN 2010 , AND AGAIN IN 2018 in Afganistan!


    SOOO I stand with my 4 arguments against this war criminal, and I will re-read his wikipedia with you later with more evidence:

    1- He needs to return his blood money to the victims which he at least facilitated, or as the evidence below suggests participated in their massacre.

    2- He needs to whistle blow the war crimes which he at least witnessed, or as the evidence below suggests committed himself.

    3- Fool me once, twice, thrice, four times... shame on me, but five times re-enrolling under the same ill-trained war-criminal military contractor that has been convicted of the most horrible terrorist acts from 2005 year after year until 2018? You have to have a hole in your brain to believe this guy would not lie for a position of power, or believe this war criminal has any conscious left after seeing so many dead brown people, or guilt about his participation with them.

    4- His nazi tattoos, his racist (black people/brown people) comments, his sexual assault charges, his repeated participation with war-criminal employer for over 13 years of shame military invasions, and his pride in participating TO THIS FUCKING DAY means that he shows no remorse, no rehabilitation, no guilt, and no shame in all his history.


    Now open his wiki page, and let's talk. He was a rifle-team leader, and all his service time were in COMPACT tours under blackwater mercenary year 2005 until 2007 in Al-Anbar and Ramadi province, and guess who was the military contractor convicted of unprovoked shootings and indiscriminate killing of civilians in these dates and areas specifically? Yes it was his buddies that he is still proud about helping until this day.

    Then after the conviction of 14+ blackwater mercencaries in 2014-2015 , (and btw, you have to know the level of depravity those fuckers scooped down for the US military to convict them of war crimes in Iraq:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings

    They tortured to death and took turns raping 14 yr-old girls until they killed themselves. Those were his buddies that he is so proud of serving under until this day.)

    Guess where did he enroll next in 2010, and years later after his age and conscious sat in (when so many others of his peers with conscious chose to kill themselves to free their conscious from their ptds), in 2018 he went to sign up for who again? None other than Blackwater! Constellis, is a company that evolved from Blackwater under the same founders.. Why are you whitewashing his later Constellis employments as if it was any different?

    Now you want me to believe his history and ongoing feelings and pride about it, or believe his reddit comments? ... I get you you thinking he is a socialist, and so we thought was Obama, who is a war criminal who killed and bombed more people than any president in the US. I don't want to change the subject to Obama's war crimes, but you seem to be someone who missed that class.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    In October, various news outlets reported on past Reddit posts by Platner between 2013 and 2021 in which he called himself a "communist", declared that "all" cops are "bastards", and agreed with a post describing White people as "racist and stupid". In a 2013 Reddit discussion about anti-rape underwear, Platner commented that people worried about assault should "take some responsibility for themselves and not get so fucked up they wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to". He also referenced political violence in multiple posts; in 2018, he wrote: "Fight until you get tired of fighting with words and then fight with signs, and fists, and guns if need be." Platner also said that "an armed working class is a requirement for economic justice" and urged readers to "Get Armed, Get Organized. The Other Side Sure As Hell Is."

    Slightly based ngl (well the rape take is pretty terrible).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You haven't learned shit from Obama and Joe Biden.

    I'm aware of his leftist-narrative lip service, but no; I want to see his anti-imperalism reciepts.

    Lets see him donate all the blood money he earned from his 6-time service in the shame invasion of Iraq. Also lets see him blow the whistle on all war crimes he whitnessed and/or participated in with blackwater.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Stop spreading disinformation and actively trying to prevent a positive change in my state. Do you even live here? Why are you so intent on using lies to smear Platner? What is your objective? If it's hoping somebody even better than Graham shows up, you're absolutely delusional. My guess is that you're scared of an actual progressive gaining office and are spreading lies to discredit him so a conservative can win the office.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This person is either unwilling or incapable of engaging with reality on a good faith basis.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That dude is unhinged as fuck. They don't seem to know the difference between being a Marine for 8 years and being in Blackwater. I leaned a long time ago that arguing with a nut is they same as wrestling a pig. You both get covered in shit but only the pig loves it.

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    [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why TF isn't this marked NSFW?

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    I'm not, I'm sharing important historical photos to highlight American Crimes Against Humanity.

    Now please go bury your head elsewhere, this is not the place for your bullshit.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Please provide the relevant context for the image and tag it as NSFW then. Seems like a pretty common courtesy.

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have no desire to censor and hide this, that would defeat the whole purpose of confronting Americans with pre-Trump America.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    I’m not subscribed to this community, and you haven’t applied any NSFW tags; this is on the home page. I don’t want to scroll past dead bodies at 6am.

    I’m not burying my head in anything; I just don’t want to see this shit.

    Tag your content appropriately, and watch your tone.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    And I don't want to have to listen to Americans defend this and talk about how badly they want to go back to it every day.

    We don't always get what we want, luckily for you your solution is as easy as blocking one community on your end.

    Edit: You ended up getting your wish.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Are you hearing americans defending this and saying how bad they want to go back to it on lemmy...?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Yes, all the time I hear Americans go on about how they must defeat Trump and make things good again.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I like how you make up your own little stories.

    If the countless images and posts on here can't convince you that pre-Trump America was also not a good place, there's no hope for you.

    Go be a troll else where FS.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Oh right, how stupid of me not to realise that you want to go back to it because you hated it.

    You clearly don't view it as the unquestionable evil it was, which is frankly the crux of the issue that your blind nationalism stops you from ever improving. You will fight harder to revert back, than to move in a new direction - it's giving Nazi tbh.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    It was a decaying festering piece of shit, it still is but it's harder to deny now.

    Your country is barely any different to the evils places like Russia exhibit, yet you fight tooth and nail to defend and restore it.

    The fact that any person could look at the picture above and call that better or want it back shows how truly revolting a person they are.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It’s pretty fucking simple. Because it was better.

    Fuck off you are the lying troll.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Go fish for a ban elsewhere lying troll.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Dude... We've had a number of good conversations here on lemmy... Please log off for a bit. Clear your head man. There is exactly a zero percent chance that this way of engaging with others accomplishes anything at all productive that makes anything in the world, our communities, the online space we share, or our brains any better. And it's 100% guaranteed to make some of those things worse without accomplishing anything.

    You're not wrong. America has had a lot of issues for a very long time. In particular "foreign policy", and now the same cruelty we have exported abroad is also happening much more overtly at home than is has for a very long time

    Take care.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    How did this post turn into a dumb discussion about NSFW and Graham Platner, it's beyond me, I was old enough to remember, and for the youngsters who may think it's AI, this is not even the half of it, this was on TV news and in all the major newspapers around the world

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    When it's US atrocities

    • we should focus on present
    • let bygones be bygones
    • it was normal during that time period
    • it's progressive compared to present day
    • it's russian/china propaganda
    • they want to divide us
    • russia made us do it
    • bad people only exist in USA?
    • I wasn't involved in that period,why should it matter to me?
    • okay it was bad but look at all the good it has done for our country
    • because of us, you're in the most peaceful part of history
    • thank you for your service
    • what you're going to do about it?
    • got mine, fuck you

    But when talking about its enemies

    • bring up the same atrocities from decades and decades ago, over and over again to brigade the arguments.

    This is basic US conditioning.

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