I think I saw reported somewhere that ~1900 is the number of Palestinians they locked up after October 7.

The first offer from Hamas to let go all the hostages to Israel was on the 09.10.2023. The Israeli government rejected it then and has rejected it ever since: https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges-ex-spokesman-of-families-forum/

In fact, Hamas has stated that they are not interested in any future government in Gaza about a year ago and instead wanted a Palestinian technocratic body to take over. You know what happened? Israel murdered the diplomatic leadership of Hamas in November 2024. And then Israel and the US came out and said, that they had no one to negotiate with. And just a few weeks ago, they tried the same.

In negotiations early this year with Witkoff and others, Hamas even put this in writing - again with the offer of releasing all the hostages - contingent on a stop of Israeli aggression, the continuation of humanitarian aid and the Israeli troops to withdraw from the strip. That treaty was then changed by the US and Israel in May this year before it was rejected.

This has been modus operandi from the beginning from the US and Israel. After they had a deal, change it, make it look as if Hamas is rejecting the deal and capitalize on it. In fact, if you go back in history, you'll find the same strategy over and over again, to make it look like "Palestinians rejected peace".

And last but not least: You are telling people to lay down their weapons, that have been under a brutal siege for over two years, while ignoring the side that put in place the siege and genocidal aggression.

Israel could have stopped operating the largest and most inhumane open-air prison in our lifetime at any point in the past 25 years and significantly fewer people would have died, I'm sure.

No, they very obviously could not have. Israel was intent on committing genocide regardless of what Palestinians did. You're blaming the victims of an atrocity and should feel ashamed.

How did that work out for them the last….10 or so times Israel violated a ceasefire agreement?

They barricaded them in a prison city. They even blockaded any sea access they had. They shot tank rounds at children for fun. They eradicated every single building they could. Spare us the diatribe. Fuck Israel.

people being this clueless still amazes me.

When are we going to recognize that both Hamas and the current Israeli government are shitty murderous people that are backed by quite a big % of their population.

It's not about being pro-Israel or pro-Palestine. It's about backing muderers or not.

even with the ceasefire, Israel is still enforcing starvation

Israel to halve Gaza aid over slow return of dead hostages

https://ground.news/article/israel-to-halve-gaza-aid-over-slow-return-of-dead-hostages_89770c

They could have and they should have. In fact, Hamas shouldn't have existed in the first place but

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

That is not entirely true. Italy and Japan for example have just a few weeks ago said, that they are thinking of recognition of a Palestinian state making it contingent on several changes of Hamas.

But this is neither here or there. If among a whole people, the only organization that is invited does represent only a minority of the people, which can be seen from their low approval, then this meeting is a farce. In the case of the PA, if you read the linked article, they have actively focused on cracking down on anti-occupation groups in Jenin, while Israel has forced around 40000 Palestinians out of their homes during 'Operation Iron Wall' early this year. Instead of opposing, they colluded. This is not the Palestinian people deciding their own fate, but colonial powers imposing their will on them.

The PA is an arm of Israeli Apartheid, Occupation, and Suppression.

The PA creates the appearance of Palestinian autonomy, but in fact, much like the governments of the Bantustans of apartheid South Africa, it is simply an extension of the colonial state, a tool of counterinsurgency that is highly effective for the repression of local rebellions, because it makes the native population police itself. Fatah, which was a revolutionary movement in the early days of the armed struggle, is now mostly contained by the PA.

• The Palestinian Authority: A Tool of Israeli Counterinsurgency - Adi Callai

Israel’s stabilization strategy, inspired by modern counterinsurgency doctrine, has rested on two pillars: the employment of pacification measures to co-opt Palestinians and reliance on the Palestinian Authority (PA) to police its population on Israel’s behalf. However, many Palestinians are now fighting back against this approach, while the PA’s eroding legitimacy has only hardened the population’s refusal to accept its restrictive methods.

• Why Israel’s goal of pacifying the Palestinians is failing - +972

It is presented here as it has been perceived by the Israeli policymakers and bureaucrats down the years. For them the PA was an integral and crucial component in the open-air prison model suggested in the 1990s, and one which the pragmatic elite of Israel still hopes to instate in the West Bank, at least in the near future.

• Ilan Pappe - The Biggest Prison on Earth

In appearance, the PA has all the trappings of a state, with ministries and a civil service, but Israel wields the real power, turning the tap on tax revenue, and controlling access to the shrinking territories – a status quo often compared with the Bantustans of apartheid-era South Africa.

The PA has actively helped Israel to keep tight control over the Palestinian population. Many perceive the body as a tool of the Israeli security apparatus, its US-trained forces not only targeting those suspected of planning attacks on Israelis, but also arresting union figures, journalists and critics on social media.

• What is the Palestinian Authority and what is its relationship with Israel? - AJ

Israel relies on this division of the West Bank to foster the fiction that the Palestinian Authority is the entity primarily responsible for administering the life of the majority of Palestinians in the West Bank. In practice, however, Israel still retains control over the entire West Bank and all its residents.

• Conquer and Divide - B'TSelem

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israel-hamas-united-states-negotiations-gaza-ceasefire-witkoff-netanyahu