If anyone cares, GrapheneOS lets you override carrier settings for VoLTE. No workarounds needed.
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actively making their product worse. awesome
And what is the problem with VoLTE anywhere? Just curious.
The carriers probably paywall it.
I see Google is amply funding their fun-ruiner division.
They only made one small update to their "Don't be evil" motto.
Shatter this corporation.
That's not enough. Annihilate ALL of big tech.
Can someone explain it to me the privacy hobbyist? Why is this a concern? What exactly am I missing out on?
IIRC, it was announced at some point that US cell towers were compromised for several years (Salt Typhoon?) and it can't be confirmed that state actors don't still functionally own the infrastructure. This matters because the US for some fucking reason won't let SMS die.
NSA compromised them all decades ago
Part of Salt Typhoon was abusing that access
We always rely on old technology. The us won't invest money into anything until they have to. This goes for our government and the private sector
The dawn of the 4G will forever be remembered as the time our civilization forgot how to make phones that can make phone calls. I feel embarrassed every time I randomly think about VoLTE.
Meanwhile, graphene be like:


WAIT WHAT
Yup. I noticed the changes in the last release chanfelog and had no idea what this was about. Now I get the whole story. And yeah i also got the options now! Sadly mine is a low-cost prepaid sim provider in my country (5 bucks monthly for 60GB data with calls), and after checking with them they don't have support for these functions yet for any phone. They don't have 5G at all, and neither vowifi, for any device. So I won't try messing with them.
Google is becoming increasingly hostile to projects like GrapheneOS. I hope their deal with the new OEM they're working with succeeds and provides them some shelter. People buy Pixel phones specifically to install GrapheneOS, so it must help Pixel sales, but of course when Google notices something good happening they have to try to crush it.
The only reason I got mine was for graphene.
Should it become unusable to run graphene i will absolutely NOT use it with google firmware. I'll flash it to stock and sell it. (I'm not cruel enough to give it to someone I know)
I got it new super cheap, anyway. (From my carrier, for $120 - $5/mo for 24 months)
The downfall of Android (and the Pixels) is not entirely unexpected, but now progresses shockingly fast.
Damn, we need alternatives...
The Furi Labs phone actually looks decent for a Linux phone. Outdated SoC, but probably good enough. Is Phosh actually usable now or is it still pretty janky?
Also, gotta note that I hate how a lot of these Linux phone companies talk about having amazing security when they're actually talking about privacy. Security is definitely gonna be worse than Android.
Security is definitely gonna be worse than Android.
How so?
Android has (as standard) stuff like sandboxing, SELinux, verified boot, FDE, etc. It's possible to get stuff like this working on normal Linux, but it's a lot of work (more for some things than others). Also the standard Linux solutions for e.g. sandboxing are just not as robust as what's provided by Android.
My problem is they had this phone then released a Linux version and made it worse but just added a letter onto the name. I'll pass the screen is the thing used the .OST and they put in a worse one.
Xperia 10 III is much better with SailfishOS, it you can get one second hand (it's officially supported).
Yeah but any alternative will just be aggressively bought by one of the big companies. It's hard to hold integrity and not sell when you are probably struggling to make growth.
Why block it in the first place? :s
They talk about it in the article.
In theory, any phone with the right hardware for a carrierβs cellular frequencies should be able to use VoLTE, and any capable phone with a supporting plan should get VoWiFi. The reality, however, is more complex. Many carriers only permit VoLTE and VoWiFi on devices they sell or have officially tested. This means that even if your imported Pixel has the necessary hardware, the carrier can still block these features, potentially preventing you from making voice calls entirely.
So, greed.
A mixture of greed and laziness yes. Theyβd rather you just bought from them.
This is typically the answer to problems these days. Rich fucks who want more than they can use before others are allowed to have enough just to be.
Many carriers only permit VoLTE and VoWiFi on devices they sell or have officially tested.
This bit?
I guess I still don't understand. Maybe I'm too foss-brained. I mean if it, works, and it's been proven to work, why go out of your way to block it? Ofc, maybe I'm giving them too much credit for actually thinking and being logical.
This is Bs. We didn't needcarriers approval for voice on 3G and below.
Google sides with big telecom, taking away control from users in their latest move.
Wat is the advantage of VoLTE?
From my understanding it is basically VoIP which rides the data connection encrypted back to the phone carrier. This has advantage of not being able to be hijacked by cell tower interceptors like StingRay. This basically means that itβs much harder for governments and other entities to spy on phone calls since itβs part of the data channel and not the βvoiceβ channel.
Bandwidth wise, Iβm not as certain but it could have impacts there if they donβt have QoS correctly configured.
Someone correct me if Iβm wrong?
"VoLTE (Voice over LTE) is the feature that routes voice calls over a 4G LTE connection, a crucial function now that carriers worldwide are phasing out their 2G and 3G networks. Without it, you might not be able to make phone calls at all on many modern networks. Similarly, VoWiFi (Voice over WiFi) handles Wi-Fi calling, routing calls over a Wi-Fi network instead of cellular β a handy feature when youβre in a building with poor signal."
Basically, some countries don't have access to VoLTE or VoWIFI.
Since they don't have official access they were using this to gain access (in places where pixel phones aren't on the market/not sold in that country for instance).
If VoWIFi/wifi calling wasn't available where I live I wouldn't be able to use my cell phone to make and receive calls and texts while at home. My place is a dead zone.
Some places also have spotty 5G service. So VoLTE would work better in those areas too.
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