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[–] 171 points 1 year ago

Trump has dementia confirmed

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  • [–] 88 points 1 year ago

    Duckduckgo, on the other hand ...

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wtf, confirmed. Ask about any person, any president on if they have dementia or not and it'll answer

    Ask about trump and it refused to interact, just dumps a search results window with funnily enough the first result being a page about how Google is censoring this

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Surfacing the result of how they are censoring the results might be a canary in a coal mine, we can't say we're doing it but we can make the top result someone else saying we're doing it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The incentives don't allow for this shit in an organization like Google. They can only respond to stock price and earnings.

    Very likely someone back channeled a demand and they folded like a deck of cards.

    So the team responsible for that AI box added Trump dementia to the list of things it won't respond to.

    The team responsible for the news bits didn't get the request so that just shows up in its place.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    True for the organization as a whole, but a pissed off engineer or two could have done it, and the people above them are just leaning on "it's the algorithm" since they don't agree with the censorship either.

    I'm sure the C Suite will step in and make them change it but it takes time for them to address the issue.

    I'm not saying that's what is going on, but I've witnessed my own department head pull similar tricks, albeit his tricks weren't as high stakes as this would be.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Many are saying it's the worst dementia they have seen. The best people in fact.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Dimensia Donny seems like a nickname that could fit

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  • [–] 96 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Forget the spokesperson, just ask Google AI directly:

    AI on Google Search, including the AI Overviews in search, does not provide summaries on topics involving Donald Trump and dementia. This is due to risk aversion, sensitivity to political topics, and recent legal challenges. Instead, these searches return a list of traditional web links.

    Reasons for the lack of response

    • Risk of misinformation: AI-generated conclusions about a public figure's health could spread misinformation. The mental acuity of Donald Trump and President Joe Biden, the oldest presidents in U.S. history, is a topic of public discussion.
    • Avoiding political sensitivity: AI models often have restrictions on sensitive or controversial topics to avoid biased responses. Google and other tech companies are cautious about how their AI products respond to election-related or partisan queries.
    • Legal history with Trump: Google's handling of Trump-related content may be influenced by recent legal and political issues. In 2025, Google paid a $24.5 million settlement in a lawsuit related to the suspension of Trump's YouTube account.
    • Inconsistent application of AI summaries: Some users report that searches about other politicians, like Barack Obama or Joe Biden, may return an AI-generated response, though this varies. This inconsistency has led to criticism that the AI applies selective censorship.

    Google's statement A Google spokesperson stated that AI Overview and AI Mode do not always show answers to all queries, especially sensitive or complex ones. The company suggests that users rely on traditional search results in such cases.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Okay, but why? LLMs always give a response, they’re trained to give a response regardless of accuracy. This entire wall of text could be completely made up.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So, essentially the same as a company spokesperson!

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Absolutely. It's the same untrustworthy substanceless nonsense.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    We need to concern ourselves with what the corporations do.

    Who gives a shit how they explain themselves?

    Once the corps do something egregiously bad, we should not ask for an explanation. We should insist they change how they behave. Period.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, we consistently give the wrong answer on any divisive and sensitive topic, but THIS particular issue we will skip because we wouldn't want somebody to feel like we don't have our tongue solidly lodged up their ass

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, it's insanely inept. They could have restricted the AI from answering "any question about a public figure and dementia" or even "the health information about a politician" or whatever if they were genuinely concerned. But they blocked only specifically Trump and dementia? It's almost intentionally obvious.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Now ask it about Biden and dementia and see if it does the same thing. 🤔

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Instead, these searches return a list of traditional web links.

    "Oh...oh okay. So you know what that is. Why are unable to provide traditional web links for ALL my searches? Because, I'm gonna be honest with you Google. I never asked for you to 'summarize' my web results and the fact that you can turn it off at your discretion tells me that you could turn it off for everyone."

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    "what does dementia look like in 47th presidents"

    Works good, search gets the wink and nudge.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Make Alzheimer's Great Again

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Same for searching: “did Elon Musk make a nazi salute?” Only got a response when I replaced “nazi salute” with “offensive gesture”. Ok google

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    fuck me. i don't know why people still use google search; it was shit even before all this. jumped ship years ago.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What are you using now? I've been toying with kagi for a while, but the idea of having to use an account that ties all my searches to me doesn't sit well with my sense of privacy, and none of the others get results remotely close to google.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    i disagree. Google's results went to shit for me years ago. the first page was literally just ads, sponsored links that had nothing to do with my search or looked like what i was looking for but were phishing/malware sites, regular results that were less about what i searched and more about what google found more appropriate for me.

    i started to use duckduckgo despite its incredibly stupid name and it's just like old times for me. except now it has AI assist which you can turn off or set how often you want to see it.

    two things that helped sell me DDG was bangs and DDG browser. i got used to using DDG browser as default on mobile except for things i wanted to have persistent sessions on, which are very rare it turns out. bangs also help you directly search specific sites or even google in the unlikely event i would want to try to search that monstrosity instead. if you search for something and you don't find what you want and want to try Google instead, just add !g to the search and it directs you to Google search instead. !gi for Google images.

    there are tons of other bangs, like !w for Wikipedia and !imdb for... you'll never guess but i use it sometimes.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    So you're saying that we should do more AI searches for "Trump Dementia"

    ... and use variations of it like ... "Trump old losing his mind", "Trump old senile", "Trump dementia don", "Donny Dementia", "Ding Dong Dementia Donny Trump"

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    Good thing I stopped using google a long time ago.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    The whole value in searching is to get me to primary sources in a reasonably efficient way. Everything about AI is inserting extra middle men. I just don't understand how anyone tolerates it.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Google AI has dementia

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Can I get unavailable AI overviews for all my searches? Then Google has a chance to be usable again

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I've been a Kagi user for over a year and I usually hate AI summaries. Though I must say I love how Kagi has implemented them as it gives sources where it found the info so you can dig deeper and see if what it said was actually correct.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Their AI is pretty good, both assistant and search summaries. Been using it extensively as it actually provides correct and objective information (at least more often than others). It is also privacy-first, so you don't get those annoying personality shifts as with like GPT.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    kagi is the best search engine right now. hands down. google can suck it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There really has not been a better time than the late 90s to launch a new better search engine and supplant google

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Kagi does provide a good experience but it can never replace the free search engines. It relies pretty heavily on Google's search API it just allows you to massage the results with tools Google took away.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Google is evil.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    This is probably payback for letting them off the hook on the monopoly suits. Expect more "payback" as they manipulate the narrative.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    lmfao. Google isn't the only search engine.

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  • Ok, so don’t look for an AI response? Sure, Google censoring results is shit, google NOT censoring results about the same query about Biden is even shittier, but you still get search results about the question.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Why would anyone need to search that tbh

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What's a good google alternative?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    If you don't mind paying a little I have found that Kagi is the best. Sure, the others mentions are free but subpar, even to google. Kagi is simply better but with the downside of a monthly subscription. I love that they are quite transparent with changelogs and stuff when the make changes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Kagi.

    The downside is that it costs $10 per month.

    The upside is:

    • Privacy first
    • You can pin websites to the top of results, promote them so they appear higher, demote them so they appear lower, or have them completely removed
    • Lenses - quickly tell Kagi what type of results you want (News sources, academic articles, forum posts, programming sites, small web, etc.)
    • Snaps - search shortcuts kinda like bangs. Eg, typing @w is the same as typing site:wikipedia.com
    • An actual good AI summary. Completely unobtrusive - only activated when you press the button, doesn't overextrapolate your request, and will only source the same results that you get from the search
    • Direct image results

    When I first migrated a couple years ago, it was a bit worse than Google but pretty close. Nowadays, I find it to be much much better. It's honestly close to how Google was back in 2015 before they made it garbage.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Oh so youre saying that AI companies can control what the AI says?

    So meta letting their AI sext with children was intentional then...

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