The ex-Fox News host railed against decades of work to diversify the all-volunteer military as he announced initiatives to effectively exclude women from combat roles and relax protections against hazing and bullying of troops

More than 800 of America’s top military leaders sat silent and showed no reaction as ex-Fox News presenter turned Pentagon boss Pete Hegseth told them he was issuing a series of new directives that will make it harder for women to serve in combat and easier for personnel to engage in hazing and bullying without repercussions during an unprecedented gathering of flag-rank officers at a Marine Corps base in Virginia on Tuesday.

The Secretary of War — a title not used by the head of the U.S. military establishment since 1947 but revived by President Donald Trump earlier this month — told the group of admirals, generals, and their senior enlisted advisers he was “ending the war on warriors” and complained that too many of their peers had been put in their roles “for the wrong reasons” including their race and gender.

Standing in front of a large American flag backdrop, he attacked by name several of the leaders’ retired peers, telling them that the department’s “compass heading” was “clear.”

“Out with the Chiarelli, the McKenzies and the Milleys and in with the Stockdales the Schwartzkopfs and the Pattons,” he said, denigrating former Army Vice Chief of Staff General Peter Chiarelli, ex-U.S. Central Command commander and Marine Corps General Kenneth McKenzie Jr, and ex-Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman and Army General Mark Milley, each of whom has been critical of Trump or his administration.

“The sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies,” he added.

Hegseth also groused about efforts to open up combat roles to women and initiatives to “weed out so-called toxic leaders” and blamed “foolish and reckless” politicians for having “set the wrong compass” and causing the Pentagon to lose its way.

Hegseth, an Iraq War veteran who attained the rank of Major in the Army National Guard but became a critic of the Pentagon’s efforts to open up military service to women, racial minorities and LGBT+ persons, said the War Department must “restore a ruthless, dispassionate and common sense application of standards” that are “uniform, gender neutral and high.”

He told the assembled leaders he was issuing a directive to ensure that “every designated Combat Arms” role across all branches “returns to the highest male standard only,” all but reversing a 2015 directive from then-Defense Secretary Ashton Carter to open all combat roles to women.

“If you do not meet the male level physical standards for combat positions ... it's time for a new position or a new profession,” he said. “If women can make it excellent. If not, it is what it is. If that means no women qualify for some combat jobs, so be it.”

The War Secretary also claimed — without offering evidence — that the Pentagon had lowered standards “to hit racial quotas as well” and said the revised standards he was promulgating are based on what he called the “1990 test,” which compares today’s standards to those in 1990, a time when women were barred from combat roles and LGBT+ persons were banned from serving.

“The 1990s test is simple. What were the military standards in 1990 and if they have changed, tell me why was it a necessary change based on the evolving landscape of combat, or was the change due to a softening, weakening or gender based pursuit of other priorities? 1990s seems to be as good a place to start as any,” he said.

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[–] 192 points 1 year ago (71 children)

I wonder how generals feel about being told how to do their jobs by a major.

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  • [–] 90 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm sure they are hyped, delighted, and filled with espirit de corps about all of this.

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    "Hey you fat fucks, none of this girl shit. We're going to all do push-ups and jack off to the good kind of porn and get cool Hearts of Iron 4 tattoos and pray to the Real Jesus and any of you phony losers who complains can hit the fucking bricks! Now lets go fight some wars because we love peace!"

    Punches the air

    Chops crotch repeatedly

    Tries to do a stage dive, hesitates, and walks it back pretending to look cool about it

    Yeah, I can't imagine why this fell flat.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (60 children)

    Starting to think the military may be the last hope of true allegiance to the flag.

    Trump needs a war to declare martial law and then undermine elections. He can then claim he's only doing what Zelenskyy has done.

    Think we also saw this tried in South Korea didn't we?

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (52 children)

    He can claim anything, but Ukraine's constitution doesn't allow elections during war. America's does.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    In the backdrop of this, does that even remotely matter?

    It only matters insofar as the courts uphold that; and even if they do, Courts have no enforcement arm to ensure adherence.

    This will ultimately rest on how much individual states or these military generals want to unilaterally push back.

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  • [+] -48 points 1 year ago (49 children)

    Ukraine’s constitution doesn’t allow elections during war

    Seems like a big flaw in the Constitution, given that the public now has no way to remove leadership that's running a war this badly.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    given that the public now has no way to remove leadership that's running a war this badly.

    What? David is holding his own against Goliath, but that’s “running a war this badly”?

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  • [+] -30 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    David is holding his own against Goliath

    If that's the case, Zelensky will win in a landslide and be pronounced Kind of Judea.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    He said the other day he doesn't want to seek another term after the war is over.

    Can't blame him, I'd want out of it too if I were in his position.

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  • [+] -26 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Netanyahu has made similar remarks.

    But when the war never ends and there's no election to campaign for, its an easy pledge to hold on to.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Easy way for the war to end, would be to have putin take his fucking invading army out of Ukraine

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  • [+] -23 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Would that actually end the war? Seems like Ukrainians would still want revenge.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Yeah I think the Ukrainians are just defending their homeland and way of life. I doubt they would go into russia, I don't think they are nearly as stupid as the russian government

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  • [+] -13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I think the Ukrainians are just defending their homeland

    Russians say the same thing. That's nationalism in a nutshell.

    I doubt they would go into Russia

    Tell it to the folks living in Kursk

    And now, Russia has been invaded for the first time since World War II. In July, Ukraine launched an attack in the Kursk region of Russia. It had determined that the border was only lightly defended, that Russia hadn’t heavily mined the area or installed significant anti-tank barriers. In a matter of weeks, Ukraine occupied 500 square miles and 100 settlements. An astonishing 130,000 Russians have been evacuated from the region.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Defending your homeland by invading another country is a stretch, let's be honest.

    And Ukraine going into russia, because russia is actively invading is very different than if russia fully withdrew, and then Ukraine invaded unprompted.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    And Ukraine going into russia, because russia is actively invading is very different

    The original Russian invasion of Ukraine was instigated by Ukrainian military launching attacks over the eastern border of the Donbas at a retreating insurgency. The Russians lined up at the border, knives out, waiting for an excuse to come charging over the line. That's been the story of these two countries since Maidan in '14. Ethnic Ukrainians and ethnic Russians at each others throats, without regard for any national line in the sand.

    "Oh don't worry, the fighting will stop as soon as you surrender and leave" is as dogshit coming from the Ukrainians as it is from the Russians. It only isn't an issue for Ukraine because they're the ones losing territory. But they're not going to stop fighting until they've finished carving out their respective ethnic enclaves and mining a new demilitarized zone in between. It's the same story we saw with the Korean peninsula and nearly what happened in Vietnam and Japan. It's currently what's shaking out in the newly Christened "South Sudan".

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The original Russian invasion of Ukraine was instigated by Ukrainian military launching attacks over the eastern border of the Donbas at a retreating insurgency

    Is that the current talking point? It's so hard to keep up.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The original invasion of Ukraine like the iron curtain taking their territory? Or like in 2014 when russia invaded Crimea? Or are you talking about something else?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    the iron curtain taking their territory?

    My great grandfather was burned alive in a synagogue when the Nazis and their Banderite allies captured Ukraine.

    When does he get his territory back?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    When your country is being invaded by a colonizer, elections would be, at best near impossible to run free and fairly, at worst a guarantee for interference

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    elections would be, at best near impossible to run free and fairly

    Americans ran elections during the US Civil War in 1864. West Germany held elections in the middle of the Berlin Blockade in 1949. Give me a fucking break.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    1864 isn't recent. Times have changed, it's easier to target civilians lining up to vote. There wasn't an active war on in 1949 give me a break

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Times have changed

    The process of registering and collecting votes is easier than ever.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Not when your neighbour is bombing your civilian population centers

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Especially then. Modern telecommunication is vastly superior to historical methods of communication.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not when you can target internet infrastructure

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Seems useful at the moment, given Russia's penchant for election interference.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Moldova just elected an EU-friendly government in a landslide, despite perpetual claims of election interference.

    Poland and Romania also just put up a staunch anti-Russian nationalists.

    The notion that Russia can rig elections in their favor hasn't born out over the last two years. Anti-Russia candidates are sweeping Eastern Europe.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is Moldova at war?

    And how did Moldova achieve it? By booting out the obvious traitors.

    A model for America.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is Moldova at war?

    Does it matter?

    And how did Moldova achieve it?

    They were the incumbent party and they grew their majority by pinning economic decline on the Russian invasion of their neighbor.

    By booting out the obvious traitors.

    The BEP wasn't booted out. They have the second highest majority of MPs in Parliament.

    A model for America.

    :-/ Do you know anything about Moldovan politics?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Does it matter?

    It's the whole point of this thread.

    Ukraine’s constitution doesn’t allow elections during war

    But the answer is "not really" because the Ukrainian constitution doesn't apply to Moldova.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The notion that Russia can rig elections in their favor hasn't born out over the last two years.

    Doesn't mean they haven't been trying

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Which country should be holding elections, on these terms? It seems like everyone gets to claim a rival state is meddling in their politics.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes? All the big colonial powers love to meddle in other country's elections.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Hard to say he's running the war badly considering that Ukraine still exists 3 years later when most outside observers were wondering if Ukraine would last 3 days.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ukraine still exists 3 years later

    Iraq still exists, 22 years later. I guess Saddam did a great job.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Since the Iraqi military was either defeated on the battlefield or surrendered and US troops pulled Saddam out of a spider hole to drag him off for trial and execution, I'd call that a bad analogy.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Since the Iraqi military was either defeated on the battlefield or surrendered

    Ukraine's military has been whittled down to a nub. They're relying almost entirely on equipment, support, and mercenary companies from NATO states at this point in the war. The Ukrainians still in the fight are largely unwilling conscripts picked up off the street and press-ganged into playing grenade tag with their Russian conscript counterparts.

    But I guess Russia's military isn't able to capture celebrity comedian and professional t-shirt guy President Zelensky. So, yay! Winning?!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ukraine is in a situation where a war is either being run well, or Ukraine doesn't exit. There's no real third option. The U.S., on the other hand, could run a war badly for decades with it's wealth and geographic isolation propping it up.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Ukraine is in a situation where a war is either being run well, or Ukraine doesn’t exit.

    If that's your personal opinion, that's fine and cool. The idea that nobody actually living in Ukraine gets to evaluate the quality of their leadership or the relative appeal of their civil ministers until some kind of peace accord is struck (with the presumable caveat that there can never be peace until the whole country is retaken, I guess?) leaves you with a country governed by military dictatorship indefinitely.

    The U.S., on the other hand, could run a war badly for decades with it’s wealth and geographic isolation propping it up.

    Aside from the more obvious reasons, the nagging fact that Bush didn't pounce on 9/11 to make himself Prez 4 Lyfe suggests they weren't properly prepared to exploit the attack for their own benefit.

    But we're looking at the wages of the Long War as we speak. All our wealth and geographic insulation isn't saving us from the harsh economic realities of endless conflict. We've got a nation flush with unemployed veterans who are leaping at the chance to join the Trump Gestapo for a six figure salary. We've got an admin stuffed to the brim full of FOX News talking heads, because none of them have "Lost One Too Many Battles" branded on their resumes. Our economy is increasingly seven tech oligarchies in trench coats, trading the same trillion dollar check back and forth between them to give the appearance of growth, even as they've been laying off their best and brightest and consolidating their business around a model of digital landlordism.

    All of this can be traced back to our decision to burn the livelihoods of millions of Americans and trillions in productive capital on an endless war. Trump is us paying the interest on that enormous debt.

    And the only thing that kept us from getting to 2025 faster was twelve years of Presidents who gradually and painstakingly extracted us from those conflicts overseas. That was the value of the last twelve election cycles.

    Ukraine doesn't have our runway and its burning up a lot faster than the US did after 9/11. Plenty of people on the ground see this for what it is. The Ukraine that existed before 2022 (really, before 2014) is fully evaporated. What we have now is this husk, being torn at by two global military factions.

    So maybe elections don't really matter anymore anyway. Democracy in Ukraine died when the pogroms began.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Look at reporting for any coup that has ever happened.

    Take note of how those reports talk about which side has support of the military.

    “The sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies,”

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Trump can say and do whatever he wants .... it really doesn't matter

    The thing of it is ... what will the country and the rest of the US government ALLOW HIM to get away with.

    Trump has no power ... only the power that he is allowed to have ... and so far, the US government, both political parties and the citizens have been more than willing to allow him to get away with whatever he wants.

    I don't blame some dumb orange politician ... I blame the entire country for their shared collective stupidity.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's 2025 and people are hoping for a military coup against an elected President.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    ...as a response to the President advocating for invading US cities to 'train for war' and all the other shit that violates the thing they are sworn to protect, the Constitution.

    Also, the more time goes on without any mention of the integrity of the last election while openly advocating for more and more election manipulation and voter disenfranchisement, the more I am convinced that the Republicans directly rigged the 2024 election instead of their regular tactics. It would be yet another thing that Republicans claimed Dems were doing because Republicans were planning or doing it already.

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  • [–] 134 points 1 year ago

    "the sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies"

    It's pronounced reich, dipshit.

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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    So the whole "recalling all the generals home for a big meeting" was just "this could have been an email" media bluster.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Fr fr, gather everyone just to say "shave yur head" lol, what a clowns

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mean, there was tons of "we're invading American Cities and Fighting the Enemy within" bullshit too.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    “The sooner we have the right people, the sooner we can advance the right policies”….. holy shit.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm sure more bigotry, bullying and hazing will be super helpful with that perpetual recruiting crisis.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Since they're in the process of crashing the economy, they're counting on young poor people not having much choice.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Didnt you hear? Hegseth said that its those damn internet communities undermining their officers. And those damn formal and anonymous complaints, so we cant have those anymore!

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    In a better timeline the top brass rushed the stage & pulled Kegseth apart like a chicken.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is that something you typically do to chickens where you’re from?

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